schizoaffective resembling AS but not quite?

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I believed heart and soul I was the secret queen of a master race of people. I had to take meds before I realized that it wasn't true. That's a delusion.

How old are you?

People with AS can have so called psychotic episodes, that can last a while, kind of between the age of 18 and about 28 (roughly)

There's a type of delusion where you convince yourself of something, that can last a long time (like I said about the TV thing), but then goes away.
(though scitzoaffective is supposed to clear in many cases after a while apparently, but I'm not sure they haven't just screwed the diagnosis criterion up enough that it's catching people with AS)

Some say it's schizophrenia with bi-polar (which shouldn't clear on it's own, but should get better with social assistance and not meds) but in the literature they say prognosis is better than for Schizophrenia in some cases.

I'd check out the diagnosis criteria if I where you.

At least 3 months of psychosis in one go and more over a period of a year, Off the top of my head.

Yeh, the meds made me deluded into thinking they where working too, took years until all the stuff I didn't get started really coming out of me.
And you will get really really nasty rebound if you stop them, miles beyond your original symptoms.


The meds should only take away the highs not the lows, though some work for the lows.
It really depends of if the 'racing thoughts' of a high or low where like really really over excited and super super happy and careless and overlapping each other.
Or just like having lots of good/bad ideas, or being on a bit/down of an up day/week or whatever.

yep that a dellusion.

You attached yourself to being the 'secret queen of a master race of people'

I know someone who's AS who had something similar, thought they where NEO in the matrix.

I had to take meds before I realized that it wasn't true. That's a delusion.
hmm.. I don't know anyone with a Schizoid personalty who stops believing when they take the meds. They just stop thinking / caring about it so much.

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I did not meet the criteria for length of time, but if they treat you and it stops, then the criteria goes out the window for length of time.

kind of catch 22.

The people I know where it did stop are def on the AS side of things.
They stopped the meds, some had nasty rebound but are find off the meds once the original problem went away. [some needed hospitalization due to the rebound]


The Schizophrenic people always keep believing, even when they are on the meds.
The ones who had a temporary delusion sill think about it now and then, but just go... ahh it's a load of rubbish after a fashion.

Anyhow, Scitzoafective can clear, and you should need to be on the meds life long. Many groups of people recommend that their only used until things get better and then tapered off. This is because the long term effects of the medication can be very disabling and also that they stop working so well and people are no better off in the end on or off the meds, even ones with more 'serious' issues.

The first 'trip' is always going to blow you out the window, like the first nightmare you ever had.

Well, given that people on the Autistic spectrum are a bit like a master race and feel like they are on the wrong planet, I can see who that delusion may have manifested itself..

Did something tell you that was the case, or was it more like it was the only possible answer? (that's more of a general split)

So did you have voices that told you, or was there a secret message encoded in a new paper if you picked out certain words?

'Some mild examples that don't fit that cut so well'
e.g. A mild schizophrenic friend believes that fluoride is a mind control drug, because that's what it's inventor says and the Nazi's put it in the water. He won't accept that it's it Tea and won't accept any evidence that is opposite to his opinion.
even on the meds.

Another was thinking about life the universe and everything and came to some conclusion that he won't budge on and became much more religious. But when someone coughs he now hears a voice, as if it was before the time of the cough.

Won't have it any other way, even on the meds.

one other thing.

Most schizophrenics I know are actually quite happy, because near all their traits are schizophrenic.

I wasn't at all happy with my diagnosis, because the issue had been more of a life long one, and more social in nature etc...

Schizoaffective disorder is related to schizophrenia but is milder in terms of defection. High functioning autism is developmental, and I can see the relation between the two. Such as isolation and sensitivity but they are for different reasons. Schizoaffective causes one to have flat emotion affect, which means nothing affects them and they are passive. Autistic people can be over affected by things such as overactive sensory processing or be in an ecstatic mood to block bothersome stimuli and may have obsessions. Schizoaffective people do not have much interest in things even in their favorite activities or hobbies. They are not affected by stimuli or what people think and are more affected by their delusions. Psychosis can occur in schizoaffective disorder, when every piece of stimuli surrounding someone is given equal attention and criticizing voices are heard and attention to what matters in the moment may be lost or blurred then all of these stimuli mix and render paranoid hallucinations. The stimuli don't bother a schizoaffective person but they are just registered in the mind and cause distorted thinking thus hallucinatory voices and visions. Autistic people are affected by stimuli but do not go through psychosis and allow the stimuli to bother them and not dwell in their mind, in other words, they don't hallucinate and become extremely paranoid but do have a "meltdown" when they start to feel and appear intense and focus on the main idea but social interaction is somewhat difficult. The similarities are avoidance of socializing and the differences are psychosis and meltdown, passivity and rigid concentration.