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04 Jan 2011, 12:27 am

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Psychics and mediums, in my experience only serve to give false hope to people who have lost someone close which is the most cruel thing imaginable.


false hope is better than no hope at all.

Truth, acceptance and moving on are better still.


some folk will need more time and palliative measures before they do this, so this is where the storefront psychics come in. they perform this kind of palliative service, which would be much better if it were free but is still useful. just my jejune opinion. all mere mortals are just children playing in the sandbox- some believe they are lords and construct walls and moats and sandcastles to keep their lessers at bay. but it is all sand.



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07 Jan 2011, 10:32 am

you want someone telling you that your baby or sick mother is going to be okay and then a month later they die?

It is far better to to view to universe as it really exists than to persist in delusion.

False hope, you want to lie to people? That's what you're doing.


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07 Jan 2011, 10:40 am

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you want someone telling you that your baby or sick mother is going to be okay and then a month later they die?
It is far better to to view to universe as it really exists than to persist in delusion. False hope, you want to lie to people? That's what you're doing.


i was thinking more along the lines of the storefront psychics who tells their clients that their deceased love ones are doing well in heaven and looking down on them all from the golden heights. a compassionate psychic won't go so far as to spill the beans one way or another, on the living. they will be vague, so as to give the flavor of hope without the specifics. this includes NEVER saying outright whether somebody will live or die, or become well or deteriorate. and as far as lies go, "it is all sand." everything on earth is but a grand illusion- suffering and joy, all temporal thus illusory.



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08 Jan 2011, 9:34 am

Actually, I think a psychic/medium performing the kind of service I think we are talking about here (ostensibly allowing someone to talk to a passed one) can provide a way for the client to deal with unprocessed 'stuff' - feelings and whatnot toward the deceased. It can be a useful ritual for bringing out any clogs in the bereavement pipe, so to speak. Many folks go around with unfinished business with their dead ones, especially if the deaths were sudden, and other than seeing a counselor/shrink I feel this is a good way to deal with it.

So, even if it's not 'real' (and I make no claims to know either way), such a service is useful and can have very positive psychological effects for the client.

Of course, no psychic frames their work the way I just did.

As a tarot reader, I don't claim psychic abilities, though often I do readings that come out in the most bizarrely meaningful ways. I have to give credence to the idea that some things do occur for which our current science does not have models for.

But I am an agnostic and a skeptic about the reality of psychic powers. My own psychic moments come and go without me finding any way to harness the power reliably.


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08 Jan 2011, 10:58 am

QFT+1



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20 Feb 2011, 5:32 pm

Moog wrote:
Actually, I think a psychic/medium performing the kind of service I think we are talking about here (ostensibly allowing someone to talk to a passed one) can provide a way for the client to deal with unprocessed 'stuff' - feelings and whatnot toward the deceased. It can be a useful ritual for bringing out any clogs in the bereavement pipe, so to speak. Many folks go around with unfinished business with their dead ones, especially if the deaths were sudden, and other than seeing a counselor/shrink I feel this is a good way to deal with it.

So, even if it's not 'real' (and I make no claims to know either way), such a service is useful and can have very positive psychological effects for the client.

Of course, no psychic frames their work the way I just did.

As a tarot reader, I don't claim psychic abilities, though often I do readings that come out in the most bizarrely meaningful ways. I have to give credence to the idea that some things do occur for which our current science does not have models for.

But I am an agnostic and a skeptic about the reality of psychic powers. My own psychic moments come and go without me finding any way to harness the power reliably.

While I agree with the general idea, I think it's better to see a counselor/shrink. The result would be the same and there would be no lies involved.



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22 Feb 2011, 2:48 pm

Lecks wrote:
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Actually, I think a psychic/medium performing the kind of service I think we are talking about here (ostensibly allowing someone to talk to a passed one) can provide a way for the client to deal with unprocessed 'stuff' - feelings and whatnot toward the deceased. It can be a useful ritual for bringing out any clogs in the bereavement pipe, so to speak. Many folks go around with unfinished business with their dead ones, especially if the deaths were sudden, and other than seeing a counselor/shrink I feel this is a good way to deal with it.

So, even if it's not 'real' (and I make no claims to know either way), such a service is useful and can have very positive psychological effects for the client.

Of course, no psychic frames their work the way I just did.

As a tarot reader, I don't claim psychic abilities, though often I do readings that come out in the most bizarrely meaningful ways. I have to give credence to the idea that some things do occur for which our current science does not have models for.

But I am an agnostic and a skeptic about the reality of psychic powers. My own psychic moments come and go without me finding any way to harness the power reliably.

While I agree with the general idea, I think it's better to see a counselor/shrink. The result would be the same and there would be no lies involved.


You're assuming all psychics are frauds, and I don't necessarily. Fair enough, but. One man's milk is another's poison. There's more than one way to skin a cat. If a shrink works, good. If a psychic works, good. If standing on your head and putting cheese up your nose helps, yeah you see my thing. Results matter.

Being a tarot reader myself, I never claim to be psychic, and I never lie. What I often do is use a mixture of common sense, mythological allegory and intuition (and yeah, sometimes I do get what seem like 'psychic' impressions) to create a coherent reading, and absolutely no lies are told.

I believe that people should have options, and there's probably a lot more people in 'our' society who would choose the shrink over a shaman. I think it's worse when people don't have any recourse at all, or don't feel they do. There's probably as many people who think shrinks are all
frauds as there are people who think all psychics are frauds.

There's a fair smattering of con men and women in every field of sales and services. Caveat emptor. Choose wisely.

I can't believe this thread came back!


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22 Feb 2011, 2:55 pm

when I was young I listened to the radio so much that I could predict what was going to play next on the radio with 75% accuracy. It would just start playing in my head and then come onto the radio if I was right.


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22 Feb 2011, 6:16 pm

This is a symptom of schizophrenia - believing others can hear your thoughts.

"Psychic phenomena" can be explained, partially, by confirmation bias. You remember all the times you successfully "predicted" something, and forget the times you were unsuccessful. So it looks like "psychic powers" but it's really just coincidence.



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22 Feb 2011, 7:43 pm

Not sure if I've posted on this thread... and too tired to go back and check (gosh, I'm bone idle!) but just to say that whenever I've believed in psychic phenomena it's been a symptom of psychoses.



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23 Feb 2011, 10:00 am

Moog wrote:
As a tarot reader, I don't claim psychic abilities, though often I do readings that come out in the most bizarrely meaningful ways. I have to give credence to the idea that some things do occur for which our current science does not have models for.
But I am an agnostic and a skeptic about the reality of psychic powers. My own psychic moments come and go without me finding any way to harness the power reliably.


Why would someone want to see a tarot reader?



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09 Mar 2011, 10:31 pm

Ack, psychosis! If someone can verify that it's happening, you're not crazy!



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09 Mar 2011, 10:32 pm

jackbus01 wrote:
Moog wrote:
As a tarot reader, I don't claim psychic abilities, though often I do readings that come out in the most bizarrely meaningful ways. I have to give credence to the idea that some things do occur for which our current science does not have models for.
But I am an agnostic and a skeptic about the reality of psychic powers. My own psychic moments come and go without me finding any way to harness the power reliably.


Why would someone want to see a tarot reader?
Er, curiosity, an interest in the occult, or other traditions. Why not. I don't think I'd pay for one, though. I got a reading once, from a friend.



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09 Mar 2011, 11:13 pm

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I've been finding that more and more I am developing telepathic abilities, let me be clear: I talk in my mind and others hear it as well. I know that in psychology this is often thought of as a common sign of madness but despite all my analysis of the problem I still feel like it's going on. Has anyone else experienced this phenomena? If so do you believe it to be real or some part of your condition?


To be sure you can use Zener Cards:
http://www.wikihow.com/Test-for-Telepat ... ener-Cards

Nobody ever wants to be sure. I believed for a very long time that I was psychic. So did lots of other people. Even though I'm on the autistic spectrum, I could do a cold reading with such facility that I didn't even realise I was doing it.

Nowadays I can consciously "read" someone, and they'll swear up and down that I'm psychic. When I try to explain to them what I actually did to obtain the result, they'll get very angry, defensive... sometimes tearful.

There is no such thing as Psychic. Sorry, OP. It is indeed a sign of madness.



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11 Mar 2011, 2:24 pm

I'm thinking of a number...

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11 Mar 2011, 3:22 pm

Speaking of telepathy.....the other day my sister and my brother where watching a movie and my brother fell asleep when my sister was talking to him but was still responding. So then she just started thinking things and he was responding in full sentences relevent to what she was thinking while he was asleep.