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23 Jul 2012, 2:21 am

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My psychologist is telling me he thinks I don't have Asperger's but Schizotypal Personality Disorder. I definitely don't have magical thinking or anything related. I have a cousin who has schizophrenia but I don't know if it's on our side. I do have derealization and had depersonalization but that was from a bad drug trip. I still have it 10 months later. I had a traumatic experience and my psychiatrist thinks I have panic disorder. My psychiatrist said schizotypal and asperger's symptoms are almost the same.

I'm a little pissed off because I was "diagnosed with Asperger's" while I was inpatient. Now, in outpatient, I'm told different information. It's f***ing frustrating.

I really don't see myself as extreme Asperger's. Maybe very mild.

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It's also frustrating because he is judging me based on being able to talk to other individuals in the group. He said he had an Asperger's guy once and I don't act like him. f**k, I'm having a hard time socializing and finally get a couple sentences into a conversation after finding a relation with another individual and now I don't have Asperger's. Apparently the test I took (which was sh***y anyways) didn't come back with definite Asperger's. But yet I was diagnosed with it. This guy is pissing me off, although I really respect and like him.

How long were you an inpatient that time you were diagnosed with Aspergers, and how long did they assess you as an outpatient before reaching a conclusion?

Also, here is some information about Aspergers vs. Schizotypal Disorder(There is Schizotypal Disorder and Schizoid Personality Disorder in ICD-10, in DSM-IV however, Schizotypal Disorder also has the "Personality" in its name):
http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/7/4/310.full - differential diagnosis
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt127827.html - "Aspergers vs Schizoid Personality Disorder"

Personally, I fit into the criteria for Schizotypal Disorder, but since I also fit into Simple Schizophrenia and Asperger's, it is double excluded according to ICD-10. This thread I started explains how ICD-10 says Schizotypal and Aspergers is mutually exclusive: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt190714.html ..so what do you have if you fit both..?

I also fit into the ICD-10 criteria of Schizoid Personality Disorder, which in turn excludes Aspergers, but matching the Schizotypal criteria exludes Schizoid.

hehe, well, my point is, self-diagnosing can be a b***h. It's best to trust in professionals. If you are unhappy with your first diagnosis, seek a second opinion. If they reach different conclusions, seek a third opinion, and so on, until you get two similar diagnosis from two independant professionals.


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23 Jul 2012, 5:32 am

Those are just theories. At the moment we don't know enough about psychiatric disorders to tell for shure if there is a conection and if there is one how far the connection goes. We also have the problems with comorbidity. It isn't even 100% possible to tell if autistic people are really more common Bipolar and ADHD, or if it just looks that way, because of the simmilarities.

All of these criteria can also occur in Asperger syndrome, and Wolff (1998) regards “Asperger syndrome and schizoid/schizotypal disorders as interchangeable terms that identify roughly the same group of children”.


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23 Jul 2012, 10:38 am

BreezeGod wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
BreezeGod wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
BreezeGod wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
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A self-evaluation and diagnosis for something like this is questionable at best.


If you actually read the OP you'd see it says he was professionally diagnosed with aspergers, and now this other psychologist is trying to say he doesn't have aspergers and has schizotypal PD instead.


Then maybe he has some symptoms of both. He did say he considers his Aspergers to be "mild", so why would he expect psychologists to unanimously diagnose him with that?


I don't know, I am more curious as to why you are here.......I mean it looks like you're only here to invalidate the OP than to provide any helpful input. This website isn't the place to tell people anything they say should be disregarded because they have a mental disorder.


This website isn't here to tell people everything they want to hear either. I'd rather defuse the OP's irrational anger towards his psychologist instead of encouraging it.


What is so irrational about being angry a psychiatrist throws out the diagnoses you've been given to slap another one on you....because you don't act like another individual with aspergers. A psychiatrist of all people should know every individual with the same disorder does not act exactly the same......it unprofessional to rule out a diagnoses based on that. So I don't see what irrational anger you are referring to.


Even the OP thinks he only has "mild" Aspergers. If his symptoms really are mild, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that some psychologists don't think he has Aspergers. However, the OP seems to be fixated on that one statement made by his psychologist.


Well that statement proves that psychiatrist is a fraud in my opinion....throwing out an already given diagnoses based on 'you don't act quite like that other person with aspergers? It doesn't matter if it was mild or not it was already the official diagnoses and its stupid to throw it out based on that.


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23 Jul 2012, 12:14 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
BreezeGod wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
BreezeGod wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
BreezeGod wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
BreezeGod wrote:
A self-evaluation and diagnosis for something like this is questionable at best.


If you actually read the OP you'd see it says he was professionally diagnosed with aspergers, and now this other psychologist is trying to say he doesn't have aspergers and has schizotypal PD instead.


Then maybe he has some symptoms of both. He did say he considers his Aspergers to be "mild", so why would he expect psychologists to unanimously diagnose him with that?


I don't know, I am more curious as to why you are here.......I mean it looks like you're only here to invalidate the OP than to provide any helpful input. This website isn't the place to tell people anything they say should be disregarded because they have a mental disorder.


This website isn't here to tell people everything they want to hear either. I'd rather defuse the OP's irrational anger towards his psychologist instead of encouraging it.


What is so irrational about being angry a psychiatrist throws out the diagnoses you've been given to slap another one on you....because you don't act like another individual with aspergers. A psychiatrist of all people should know every individual with the same disorder does not act exactly the same......it unprofessional to rule out a diagnoses based on that. So I don't see what irrational anger you are referring to.


Even the OP thinks he only has "mild" Aspergers. If his symptoms really are mild, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that some psychologists don't think he has Aspergers. However, the OP seems to be fixated on that one statement made by his psychologist.


Well that statement proves that psychiatrist is a fraud in my opinion....throwing out an already given diagnoses based on 'you don't act quite like that other person with aspergers? It doesn't matter if it was mild or not it was already the official diagnoses and its stupid to throw it out based on that.


That's only if you take what the OP said at face value. More likely, the psychologist gave multiple reasons for his diagnosis, but the OP became fixated on that one reason.

By the way, you do know there's a difference between psychiatrists and psychologists, right?