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25 Sep 2020, 1:49 am

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Psychopaths don't have a conscience.
Probably that's exactly the thing.
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Overwhelmingly, those on the spectrum have a moral compass overload. 8)
That's me! Though leaving my parents and religion in order to simplify my morality helped.


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25 Sep 2020, 1:54 am

magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Psychopaths don't have a conscience.
Probably that's exactly the thing.
Pepe wrote:
Overwhelmingly, those on the spectrum have a moral compass overload. 8)
That's me! Though leaving my parents and religion in order to simplify my morality helped.


I have a bigger post count than you, btw. 8)



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25 Sep 2020, 1:57 am

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I have a bigger post count than you, btw. 8)
And four years more for writing them.


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25 Sep 2020, 6:33 pm

Pepe wrote:
magz wrote:
Based on my private research, reading a lot of self-insight from http://www.psychopathicwritings.com/ I came to a conclusion that there are two dimensions of psychopathy:
1. Shallow emotionality - an in-born, neurodiverse trait;
2. Anti-social personality disorder - an effect of abusive upbringing.

My (absolutely unprofessional, private) conclusion is that people with trait 1, growing up in abusive environment, are much more likely to develop trait 2 than any other personality disorder.


I read an interesting article which differentiated "Psychopaths" and "Sociopaths" in this way:

Psychopaths are born.
Sociopaths are made.

I use this as a guide until I am convinced there is something better. 8)


I'd like to see evidence that anyone is born a psychopath. If there even is a distinction between the two, I'd say psychopathy occurred earlier in life (when they were a baby or toddler) versus childhood or young adulthood for sociopathy.

I'd also like to know how labeling people psychopaths and sociopaths is any different than labeling autistic people as psychotic or schizophrenic. IMO, you're basically insulting people because they're different and you don't like their differences instead of treating them as an equal and trying to understand them which I don't think is right.



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25 Sep 2020, 7:10 pm

emotrtkey wrote:
Pepe wrote:
magz wrote:
Based on my private research, reading a lot of self-insight from http://www.psychopathicwritings.com/ I came to a conclusion that there are two dimensions of psychopathy:
1. Shallow emotionality - an in-born, neurodiverse trait;
2. Anti-social personality disorder - an effect of abusive upbringing.

My (absolutely unprofessional, private) conclusion is that people with trait 1, growing up in abusive environment, are much more likely to develop trait 2 than any other personality disorder.


I read an interesting article which differentiated "Psychopaths" and "Sociopaths" in this way:

Psychopaths are born.
Sociopaths are made.

I use this as a guide until I am convinced there is something better. 8)


I'd like to see evidence that anyone is born a psychopath. If there even is a distinction between the two, I'd say psychopathy occurred earlier in life (when they were a baby or toddler) versus childhood or young adulthood for sociopathy.

I'd also like to know how labeling people psychopaths and sociopaths is any different than labeling autistic people as psychotic or schizophrenic. IMO, you're basically insulting people because they're different and you don't like their differences instead of treating them as an equal and trying to understand them which I don't think is right.


Them there are fighting woids, pardner. 8O
But I much decline.
I'm a luver, not a fighter. 8)


This isn't clear cut by a long-shot, but apparently psychopaths have less grey matter in the prefrontal cortex.
This is where a person's "morality centre" resides, I believe.

The irony is, based on what I have research, psychopaths think themselves superior to others because they can abuse their trust, since they have no moral impediment in what actions they take.
To the contrary, a simpler mindset/capability merely indicates less cognitive considerations, therefore, less intellectual prowess. 8)



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27 Sep 2020, 3:50 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QzusLizu5Es

Not only has this scumbag sold fakes for 20 yrs , i also heard an incident where he tried to flirt with an underage girl at a con with her father standing next to her , what a pos he is :evil:



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02 Oct 2020, 8:32 pm

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Approbation from others whose authority we respect serves to verify our sense of inner worth. Such external approval is especially important for those still plagued by self-doubt. Unfortunately, master manipulators can take advantage of this almost universal susceptibility to compliments by guilefully employing them to seduce us into emptying out our wallets. As long as we’re tricked into trusting their ingratiating kudos, we’re liable to be taken in by them. To feel favorably recognized wonderfully addresses one of our heart’s deepest desires.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... wledge-you



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05 Oct 2020, 4:54 am

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“Psychopathy is often considered as a personality disorder, or some kind of mental/behavioral dysfunction. In evolutionary sense, that would mean that natural selection acts against the gene alleles which contribute to psychopathy.”

“However, the existing literature suggest that psychopathy may have adaptive consequences as well, especially in certain environments,” Međedović said. https://www.psypost.org/2017/12/psychop ... ests-50350


Using an anthropological perspective.
But using a broader context, if it is successful in procreation, whose to say it is a dysfunction? 8)



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08 Oct 2020, 7:27 am

I think the word psychopath is a simplification of something that is very complicated. If you want to make an honest analysis of what it means, you should understand that there is always cause and effect. I also hate the use of the word narcissist, both of these words being overused. For example, as soon as someone talks too much or has a big ego, people think that the person belongs to one of these categories, which I think is directly wrong. You need to do an examination on the brain and a correct analysis of childhood to make a correct diagnosis. People need to stop using this term on every single person who behaves badly.


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08 Oct 2020, 9:07 am

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Psychopaths and sociopaths share a number of characteristics, including a lack of remorse or empathy for others, a lack of guilt or ability to take responsibility for their actions, a disregard for laws or social conventions, and an inclination to violence. A core feature of both is a deceitful and manipulative nature. But how can we tell them apart?

Sociopaths are normally less emotionally stable and highly impulsive – their behaviour tends to be more erratic than psychopaths. When committing crimes – either violent or non-violent – sociopaths will act more on compulsion. And they will lack patience, giving in much more easily to impulsiveness and lacking detailed planning.

Psychopaths, on the other hand, will plan their crimes down to the smallest detail, taking calculated risks to avoid detection. The smart ones will leave few clues that may lead to being caught. Psychopaths don’t get carried away in the moment and make fewer mistakes as a result.


https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 16031.html