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21 Jun 2011, 10:03 pm

It's taken me awhile but I believe I have found a psych and a neuropsych who genuinely have good intentions. However there is still a part of me that does not trust them or their advice simply because of the profession they are in and how innacurate it can often be plus the many different ways of treating it seems like infinate possibilities and outcomes with much uncertainty. How can you trust their advice and use it as best to your advantage?


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21 Jun 2011, 10:14 pm

I get second opinions from equally-qualified professionals.


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22 Jun 2011, 1:32 am

psych-iatrist or psych-ologist?

I trust neither.

Psychologists never said a damn thing to contribute to my understanding of myself or my relation to the world.
Psychologists prescribed me medication for the wrong reasons and got the dosage wrong. (No further details can be divulged on this public thread.)

Psychologists give advice about subjective questions of the human condition that philosophers, anthropologists, spiritualists, novelists, and poets have struggled with since the dawn of civilization—and psychologists are supposed to know the answers that all these people didn't? Answers about the right way to live your life, find fulfillment and peace of mine, attain happiness, etc? I highly doubt that.

Psychiatrists usually give advice about drugs that they themselves have never taken. Their patients are more qualified to give advice on the drugs. They're the ones that TAKE them. They know what it feels like: the benefit and the cost.

As far as my innate need to have people to trust, I only trust my close friends I've known for years, but that's a luxury not everyone on WP has.


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30 Jun 2011, 10:13 am

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
Psychiatrists usually give advice about drugs that they themselves have never taken. Their patients are more qualified to give advice on the drugs. They're the ones that TAKE them. They know what it feels like: the benefit and the cost.


Very true. They have no problem prescribing powerful drugs to their patients that they can't even relate with them about. It's like pulling teeth to actually get them to listen.



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30 Jun 2011, 10:32 am

A lot of states have laws that state the patient is entitled to copies of their own records so long as them having this information doesn't constitute a clear risk to the safety of the client or anyone else.

For me I stated this law and mail/e-mailed a formal request for my records. I then go over them myself and google anything I'm not framiliar with. It should be enough to understand why the psych came to the conclusions that they did. Then you can move forward to give them details they may not be picking up on or get a second opinion.



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30 Jun 2011, 11:57 am

K-R-X wrote:
A lot of states have laws that state the patient is entitled to copies of their own records so long as them having this information doesn't constitute a clear risk to the safety of the client or anyone else.

For me I stated this law and mail/e-mailed a formal request for my records. I then go over them myself and google anything I'm not framiliar with. It should be enough to understand why the psych came to the conclusions that they did. Then you can move forward to give them details they may not be picking up on or get a second opinion.


so you mean you get all the notes they write down?


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30 Jun 2011, 1:50 pm

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
psych-iatrist or psych-ologist?

I trust neither.

Psychologists never said a damn thing to contribute to my understanding of myself or my relation to the world.
Psychologists prescribed me medication for the wrong reasons and got the dosage wrong. (No further details can be divulged on this public thread.)

Psychologists give advice about subjective questions of the human condition that philosophers, anthropologists, spiritualists, novelists, and poets have struggled with since the dawn of civilization—and psychologists are supposed to know the answers that all these people didn't? Answers about the right way to live your life, find fulfillment and peace of mine, attain happiness, etc? I highly doubt that.

Psychiatrists usually give advice about drugs that they themselves have never taken. Their patients are more qualified to give advice on the drugs. They're the ones that TAKE them. They know what it feels like: the benefit and the cost.

As far as my innate need to have people to trust, I only trust my close friends I've known for years, but that's a luxury not everyone on WP has.


I don't mean to get nit-picky but is is psychiatrists who prescribe the medications as they are the ones with the MD degree. Psychologists have Masters or PhD degree and can sometimes suggest a medication they might think is helpful. They cannot prescribe anything though.

My current psychologist is great. She always listens to me, always helps me to try and get out what it is going on in my head, and focuses on therapy rather than suggesting I go get medication prescribed.


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30 Jun 2011, 5:55 pm

liveandletdie wrote:
K-R-X wrote:
A lot of states have laws that state the patient is entitled to copies of their own records so long as them having this information doesn't constitute a clear risk to the safety of the client or anyone else.

For me I stated this law and mail/e-mailed a formal request for my records. I then go over them myself and google anything I'm not framiliar with. It should be enough to understand why the psych came to the conclusions that they did. Then you can move forward to give them details they may not be picking up on or get a second opinion.


so you mean you get all the notes they write down?


You aren't allowed the notes. But any other paperwork they have to include diagnostic statements, test results and interpration, etc.



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30 Jun 2011, 9:52 pm

K-R-X wrote:
liveandletdie wrote:
K-R-X wrote:
A lot of states have laws that state the patient is entitled to copies of their own records so long as them having this information doesn't constitute a clear risk to the safety of the client or anyone else.

For me I stated this law and mail/e-mailed a formal request for my records. I then go over them myself and google anything I'm not framiliar with. It should be enough to understand why the psych came to the conclusions that they did. Then you can move forward to give them details they may not be picking up on or get a second opinion.


so you mean you get all the notes they write down?


You aren't allowed the notes. But any other paperwork they have to include diagnostic statements, test results and interpration, etc.


o darn...though then again probably a good thing, I bet most of us would hate these psychs more if we knew what they were writing on those pads oO.....


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