Panic attack or epileptic aura/absent seizure, or another?
This is what I feel/experience...
What causes these "episodes" can be different. Sometimes it comes completely out of no-where; sometimes I can have a kind of depressed feeling about me, or just not feeling myself, and daja vu, a memory of a dream, most of the time.
If it happens out of the blue, I'm mostly calm and don't really get affected by it. My heart skips a beat for a second and that's it. Other times..the bad times, my eyes go out of focus and I can't properly take in my surroundings (I can see, but my brain is just...bleh). I feel a pressure in my heart/around my chest area, and I feel like a can't breathe (As if my throat is closed or I'm being smothered)
It's almost impossible to decribe the feelings that go on in my head and eyes. I feel detached from reality, and I feel a slow flush flow down through my head to the rest of my body. I can clearly see the image of my dream in my head, but I can't recall what I just saw (Briefly, sometimes I can't describe what I saw, but rather the feelings I felt while seeing them)
At first I didn't think these were panic attacks because I don't actually "panic". The only panic I feel is because of the fact I'm having another one of these episodes again, I don't feel like I'm dying or going crazy.
Some other synptoms are:
- nausea
- fatigue
- tunnel vision
- a 'sinking" feeling throughout my body, kind of like a wave of depression
If someone else has these feelings too, or can help uncover the cause, please comment!
Support really does help! I found a forum about epilepic auras, and I just thought "That's me!! !! !! I'm not alone!! !"
Hi Ldog,
Years ago, my most common epileptic aura was the intense visceral sensation of Limbic fear (most likely from the right amygdala). I can induce much lesser sensations with Pavlovian aversive conditioning to a discriminative stimulus, and some of my painless migraine aura also involve visual distortions & other longer lasting aura than the typical epileptic aura.
In a previous posting, I listed references with links that are still working in the USA today (March 01, 2012) including other differentials:
My occassional heart dysrhythmias are more shorter than epileptic seizures, with very brief loss of consciousness during heavy excerise (I stopped lifting heavy weights because they hit hard when I drop them during the brief loss).
The seizures of epilepsy I have usually meet the typical rule of "less than 5 minutes" for epileptic seizures, but without anti-epiletic medication, during strong clusters of seizures, another seizure can start before the previous one fully concludes, as in Status Epilepticus.
A couple of my favorite references for differentials are:
The differential for "Panic Disorder (panic disorder with or without agoraphobia, DSM-IV-TR #300.01, 300.21)" versus epilepsy, of:
"Simple partial seizures may occasionally be characterized by a panic attack. Clues to this diagnosis include not only the occurrence, at other times, of other seizure types (e.g., grand mal or complex partial) but also the exquisitely paroxysmal nature of the ictal panic attack: whereas panic attacks in panic disorder take minutes to crescendo, the ictal anxiety peaks within seconds. An EEG may or may not be helpful in such cases, as it may be normal even while the patient is having the seizure,": http://www.brown.edu/Courses/BI_278/Oth ... /panic.pdf
This seems like a good guide when Nonconvulsive status epilepticus is totally excluded.
The possibility of nonconvulsive status epilepticus frustrates many differentials. The book "Nonconvulsive Status Epilepticus" By Peter W. Kaplan, Frank W. Drislane (2008), often has a preview of moderately "uncommon" confusions beyond the simpler differentials:
(preview often available at books-dot-google with the search "epilepsy Lyme seizures Kaplan Drislane") or:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=c ... nfusion%22
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=c ... rcinoid%22
A book with many sections available at ncbi is "Imitators of Epilepsy" at:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books?term= ... 20imitepil[book]
Tadzio
(amongst http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt173705.html)
Tadzio
It usually happens if I have sugar, but not only when I do. I've always had a problem with sugar, it tends to make me short tempered and depressed, which is unfortunate since I LOVE sugar : X
Thanks for the info! It would be great if I actually knew 100% what's going on with me. I don't think AS has anything to do with it, but I can get extremely tense in if talking to someone sometimes.
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