Are Antisocial and Schizoid polar opposites?

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Based on Freud's model of the psyche, the mind is made up of three parts; the id, the ego, and the super-ego. The id is the part of the mind that acts only according to pleasure, the super-ego is the part of the mind that acts as our conscience, and the ego is the part of the mind that acts to balance the two and please the id in realistic ways. People with Antisocial personality disorder are indifferent to the feelings of others, incapable of experiencing guilt, have very low tolerance to frustration, and disregard social rules, norms, and obligations. People with Schizoid personality disorder neither desire nor enjoy human interaction, lack sexual desire, take pleasure in few activities, and are indifferent to praise and criticism from others. It seems that the minds of people with Antisocial personality disorder are dominated by the id and don't have much of a super-ego, while the minds of people with Schizoid personality disorder are dominated by the super-ego and don't have much of an id. What are your thoughts on this? For more information on Antisocial personality disorder, Schizoid personality disorder, and the id, the ego, and the super-ego use the links below.

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Very often ppl who have psychopathic traits/are psychopaths are also loners.
So they are very often both, schizoid and antisocial.

I believe, if you don't connect emotionally to ppl. like ppl with psychopathic tendencies do than they will be very often loners by own choice who very often just connect to ppl when it's nesessary for their own good.

I kind of doubt anything that Freud says.

Yes, the main rule is to always ignore Freud. I really don't like Freud and his pseudo-psychiatry.

I don't see how those two conditions would be opposites. Wouldn't Histrionic Personality Disorder be more closely the opposite of Schizoid? (Histrionic)


If I understand correctly, both schizoid and anti-social personality disorder may suffer from impaired limbic system. This could mean that they are more likely linked together than opposites.

A study for anti-social personality: Anti-social

A publication where schizoid personality is described: Schizoid

I guess Freud's model of the psyche is over simplified. There are probably more than ten parts of the mind, most of which can influence each other. He simplified the mind down to desire, rationalization, and conscience, but the mind has many other parts including emotion, knowledge, cognition, confidence, bias, awareness, sensation, habit, instinct, and behavior mimicking. All of these except for the ‘hard-wired’ parts of the mind can be influenced by other parts of the mind. Short term events shape the way our minds change in the long term. The human mind is very complex. I guess it would be impossible for one person's mind to be an exact polar opposite of another person's mind. Parts of their minds could be different from each other though.

Freud oversimplifying the human mind is an understatement. He was not even close!

You say "including". How many parts are included in total, in your opinion?

The parts are influenced by other parts, but even the degree of the activity is important. Those properties are not binary, so the magnitude is also important to consider.

The parts I listed were just examples of things that weren't covered by Freud's theory of the psyche. There are probably some parts of the mind that I didn't cover with the terms that I used. How many parts there are would depend on how specific or general of terms you use. The terms I used could either be broken down into more specific terms or combined into more general terms. There isn't any objective number of parts. There is just a chain of parts within parts, with the mind at the top. There isn't any objective number of parts at any level of the chain either, except for the mind itself which is at the top of the chain. The number of parts at each level would depend on how you categorize the parts. An accurate chain of parts could be determined, but it would not be the only accurate way to categorize the parts.

I think you got a very good point. Especially since antisocial individuals can mask they're flaws, and by doing that create they're preferred reality, no matter the harm it causes. Schizoid individuals on the other hand tend to create they're own internal reality and block others from interfering in it.