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14 Jan 2014, 8:40 pm

https://twitter.com/qeiib

If so anyone have any idea how to help her?



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14 Jan 2014, 8:50 pm

It looks pretty illucid, but I wouldn't try to diagnose or rule out a complex mental disorder based on a bunch of tweets that could very well be someone being a Poe. Even if the symptoms do fall into the general area of schizophrenia, you would need to rule out schizoaffective disorder, mood disorders, autism spectrum disorder, and other communication disorders of childhood onset as explaining the symptoms better. As well, you would need to verify, assuming this person had onset as an adult, that since the person started experiencing prodromal symptoms there was a decline in one or more of major areas of life functioning (i.e. work, school, self-care, social interactions). This is a pretty tall order to do over a bunch of tweets, I'd say, when we're not even sure if this person is just a Poe!

Really, to have any idea, you need to see the person in person: You would need to assess their mental state as the very first step!


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16 Jan 2014, 7:18 am

Honestly I don't understand the tweets. I don't get what is up with the Phoenicians and the Argonauts.

If you know her in person, you would get a better idea by how she talks in real life. If she talks that same way all the time then it could be thought disorder which might or might not be schizophrenia. But then again people sometimes talk cryptically on the net, even healthy people. I hope this isn't insulting if she is a friend of yours. But I just don't understand what any of the tweets are about.



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16 Jan 2014, 12:05 pm

I wonder if a psychiatrist could take something like this as disorganized thinking. (a symptom of schizophrenia)



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16 Jan 2014, 6:34 pm

beneficii wrote:
It looks pretty illucid, but I wouldn't try to diagnose or rule out a complex mental disorder based on a bunch of tweets that could very well be someone being a Poe. Even if the symptoms do fall into the general area of schizophrenia, you would need to rule out schizoaffective disorder, mood disorders, autism spectrum disorder, and other communication disorders of childhood onset as explaining the symptoms better. As well, you would need to verify, assuming this person had onset as an adult, that since the person started experiencing prodromal symptoms there was a decline in one or more of major areas of life functioning (i.e. work, school, self-care, social interactions). This is a pretty tall order to do over a bunch of tweets, I'd say, when we're not even sure if this person is just a Poe!

Really, to have any idea, you need to see the person in person: You would need to assess their mental state as the very first step!


Good grief you made me look up a word ben.

No ones made me do that for a year. :D

I intentionally picked the most commonly known of all your candidates but to me they are all good ones.

Except for ASD.

Does it ever cause people to write like that?



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16 Jan 2014, 6:50 pm

ehymw wrote:
beneficii wrote:
It looks pretty illucid, but I wouldn't try to diagnose or rule out a complex mental disorder based on a bunch of tweets that could very well be someone being a Poe. Even if the symptoms do fall into the general area of schizophrenia, you would need to rule out schizoaffective disorder, mood disorders, autism spectrum disorder, and other communication disorders of childhood onset as explaining the symptoms better. As well, you would need to verify, assuming this person had onset as an adult, that since the person started experiencing prodromal symptoms there was a decline in one or more of major areas of life functioning (i.e. work, school, self-care, social interactions). This is a pretty tall order to do over a bunch of tweets, I'd say, when we're not even sure if this person is just a Poe!

Really, to have any idea, you need to see the person in person: You would need to assess their mental state as the very first step!


Good grief you made me look up a word ben.

No ones made me do that for a year. :D

I intentionally picked the most commonly known of all your candidates but to me they are all good ones.

Except for ASD.

Does it ever cause people to write like that?


I think it's possible. It looks like this person is big into fringe theories, which might lead a person to talk really cryptically.

Either way, we have yet to establish that the person even has a mental disorder at all.


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16 Jan 2014, 7:02 pm

ehymw wrote:
Is this person Schizophrenic?

https://twitter.com/qeiib

If so anyone have any idea how to help her?

Only appropriately-trained and licensed mental-health professionals can make a valid diagnosis of schizophrenia, or render any necessary and appropriate help to schizophrenics.

HOWEVER, if you have any doubts, then you might do well to keep your distance, if only for your own safety.



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16 Jan 2014, 9:03 pm

Fnord wrote:
ehymw wrote:
Is this person Schizophrenic?

https://twitter.com/qeiib

If so anyone have any idea how to help her?

Only appropriately-trained and licensed mental-health professionals can make a valid diagnosis of schizophrenia, or render any necessary and appropriate help to schizophrenics.

HOWEVER, if you have any doubts, then you might do well to keep your distance, if only for your own safety.


I agree with the first statement, but I strongly disagree with the second statement. If the OP is interested in this person and this person hasn't done anything to suggest they're a danger--and no, talking weird does not constitute a danger--then I'd say let the OP spend time with this person.


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16 Jan 2014, 10:58 pm

If she is schizophrenic, she probably doesn't think she is ill. My advice would be to respect her opinions but simply say you disagree. This way you are not being combative but you are also being honest and providing a more down-to-earth view.

She probably won't want to see a doctor but if she's open to it there are some good walk-in clinics that team up therapists with doctors. You could suggest it I suppose but I wouldn't force anything on her unless she seems dangerous to herself or others.

She sounds harmless from her tweets, just odd.

If she is schizophrenic, most are harmless. Sometimes you just have to be a little careful if they are very paranoid. The things she sounds paranoid about again seem harmless to me.



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18 Jan 2014, 2:01 pm

I find the assumption that anyone with schizophrenia is a danger one should keep their distance from to be inaccurate. Studies show schizophrenic people are usually more dangerous to themselves than others. Also there is the, its not nice to discriminate against people because they have a mental disorder but of course that is an emotional argument.


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18 Jan 2014, 2:22 pm

That is absolutely true, Sweetleaf. The ways that schizophrenics are more dangerous to society though is if they have a past history of violence (pre-illness), are on drugs, have no support system and are not medicated. With that combination, then its just a slight increase. But they are more violent toward themselves with a completed suicide rate around 10-15%. The same number as a Major Depressive Episode. There are times I talk completely incoherently as well, and most of the time I am unaware of it. Depending on how severe my episode of psychosis is (I've had MANY psychotic episodes in my life with 10 hospitalizations) I either have slight insight or total anosognosia. So, don't be scared if someone talks "weird" that is just a symptom of their illness. Fnord don't fall to the media's perception of mental illness. They perceive them as all killers or highly dangerous. One day I want to educate the people on mental illness. I know a lot of people with schizo-spectrum illnesses including my friends and myself. NONE of us are dangerous (except to ourselves) to others. Even though there are times I have the most "dangerous" types of hallucinations, known as "Command Hallucinations" I don't act on it when it tells me to hurt others. Right now my stupid pills help. I hate anti psychotics though.



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19 Jan 2014, 2:31 am

Two people on Quora.com said I had schizophrenia. I was basically saying that my ADHD was really a cause of CIA experiments and the 'symptoms' were not really symptoms but I was time travelling because they implanted a time travelling microchip in me. The time travelling made it seem like I had ADHD symptoms.

I think I was manic when I wrote it. I was being creative, not delusional.


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