When is a voice schizophrenia?

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I have a few repetitive thoughts that crop up in my head throughout the day. Some of them come and go, some of them have been there since forever. I don't believe that this is all that unusual for a neurodiverse brain: sometimes we get ideas that we hang onto, phrases we like to repeat etc., and in essence that's all my brain is doing.

My phrases are negative thoughts pertaining to myself. Not anything that would affect self-esteem, though - more reflections of my mental state and general philosophy. e.g. one is 'kill me.' - I'll be washing up and my head will say 'kill me.', walking upstairs and my head will say 'kill me.', and so on.

The past couple of days I have a new one which does seem like an attack on myself. I keep thinking 'whore.' of myself, which isn't remotely warranted (and it's not a slur I like anyway, women can do what they want with their bodies). Because it's such a random and unwelcome thought, I am more wary of it than my usual bits.

So my question is: when is a thought a voice, and when is a thought or voice something you should be worried about? I definitely fit a schizoid profile so I am mindful of stuff like this when it happens.

I'm not sure but at my worse I have had racing thoughts that won't leave me alone that basically say I am worthless and that I should kill myself and that I will never be happy and things of that nature. I'll start remembering things and connecting memories and thoughts and create this narrative against myself, I'll try to think about something else or do something to take my mind off it but it'll keep bubbling up. I'd say it is something to be concerned about if becomes negative and it keeps happening.

Im not on that spectrum myslef but came across the below video in the past that is apparently a good representation of what it is like to experiance such a spectrum...



As for your thoughts on killing yourself and the 'whore' statement. I wander if it is more related to a psychology of beating oneself up so to speak.. Its hard for me to explain, but from what you have mentioned about family life etc it would be no surprise that the depression that can be associated with such experiences could cause you to look at yourself in not such a positive way hence you may end up self justifying other peoples behavior and falsely accepting that subconsciously as a result.. In essence it is apparently the same area of the brain associated for the good feelings as it is for the negative and despite people hating the negative side it can actually become addictive creating a form of self destructive OCD especially when you cant internally find an answer for the issues you may face with family and some of the comments that are made... As for the 'Whore' statement, i think it again has something to do with subconsciously beating yourself up. You have had a difficult time with a certain male individual and you have tried your best to explain your situation and how you feel but he still isnt getting the message which in turn again causes inward frustrations and answers you cannot find. As much as you want this person to understand your position he clearly isnt and because you dont want to hurt him you maybe feeling somewhat lost in the battle and maybe feeling like you are causing pain to him ( when you clearly are not) and therefore your internal workings because of the stress is creating a falsely negative perspective of yourself maybe because you internally feel that you are a bad person when again you certainly are not and telling yourself you are a whore is trying to find and justify your experience in a negative light, a form of self sabotage because you may feel you deserve that when again you truly dont!
This is often why people in negative circumstances keep on making the same mistakes, it not that they really want to experience such dramas again it is just that people get addicted to the feelings that are associated with such encounters despite how they despise said situations. It just becomes another addiction.
The only answer i can think of is to somehow change said situations and remove oneself instantly and try to create a positive form where you can learn to love yourself for who you are then in time turn the negative thoughts into positive and in time you are likely to feel more positive Its just another habit and most habits can be rectified with patience and practice, the biggest battle is wanting to change those feelings..

Just another perspective

If you can't place a source for it I guess, I have a plethora of voices blaring through my noggin but I can locate and trace each one after analysis and am very clear that I haven't just made the investigation up to make myself feel saner lol. Only time I have heard ''outside'' or ''foreign'' voices is when I occasionally conjure up hallucinations in the period after dosing my drowsy meds, get some wicked visuals sometimes from them too! I also have had auditory hallucinations in the past during drug trips or when I have been without sleep for a substantial time, I never hear voices that I can't place other than that, I'd be worried if you can't trace where the voice came from and it was giving you some grief in its content.

The easiest way to answer this question is "Are the thoughts intrusive?" i.e. do they spring unbidden and seem to be from an unknown source or are they a part of an unwelcome thread of reasoning? If the are alien thoughts, then I would speak to a psychiatric professional about concerns of a schizoid episode or disorder

The presence of voices by itself is not proof of schizophrenia.