Jeez, some trans women can be extremely hateful to opponents

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To illustrate my point, here are cases on GenderIdentityWatch.com, which is known to be operated by Cathy Brennan, where she supports the trans women involved or even does not misgender them (though whom she will not misgender is something she seems highly selective about):

Here she, or a coauthor, supports lawsuits by transgender people (including trans women) under Title VII:

http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/01/ ... h-sys-usa/

Here she, or a coauthor, uses feminine pronouns to refer to a trans woman:

http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/01/ ... ng-israel/

So color me a bit skeptical that she would just all of a sudden appear on the comments page of some random trans blog and say she wished all trans women would die.

I think it's a case of impersonation.

Looking at how the comments on the linked blog are set up, impersonation seems like it would be rather easy.

This is the message I got back from the moderator of the forum:

All I did for the message was type "testing."

Ok. You are on to something. For me it is worth it to be seen as a women and therefore lose the male privilege I could've had if it means living as the woman I am. Not passing would afford me male privilege but it would also mean that I can never truly be a woman. If I have to ever be a man I would be devastated. I'm not a man. Being forced into the role of a man is absolute torture.

You can have your male privilege. It would probably bother you if you weren't male because it's just weird receiving male privilege when you are female. The beneficial thing called male privilege is also invalidation so it isn't so great for real trans-women. It might be great for you. Being seen as male might not be a big problem for you because you really are male.

Maybe you aren't trans. Maybe you have more soul searching to do. I don't know what your experience really is like. For me I am a woman and any male privilege I received by not passing would have been fraudulent. It may be different for you.

Nobody said all people who think they are trans are equal. Nobody said everybody is genuine. You are probably just a male who thought he was female but even so you shouldn't have been denied your autonomy. You should have been allowed to make your own mistake with bottom surgery. The fact that you were denied bottom surgery on the basis of your mental illness is still an injustice.

Even if transition is worth it for me in a patriarchal society and wrong for you it doesn't mean you should've been denied the opportunity of SRS. It might have been a mistake but those gatekeepers that stopped you shouldn't have the power that they have. If you transition and it turns out to be a disaster it isn't the fault of the gatekeepers that could've stopped you. It's your fault. They should be respectful of your free will but they shouldn't be responsible for your mistakes.

Who knows? Evidence is increasing that I'm actually on the schizophrenia spectrum and one of its manifestations is diminished sense of basic self, one of whose symptoms is a kind of perpetual impostor syndrome. During my interview in December in which I was assessed using the Examination of Anomalous Self-Experience (published 2005 in the psychiatric peer-reviewed journal Psychopathology) my interviewer asked me if I knew what impostor syndrome was. I said yes. She said that when it comes to really important stuff, like receiving credit for doing really well at work, it can be invoked in normal people, but she said I was different in that it seemed like I exhibited impostor syndrome about almost everything. She thought that was evidence of a diminished sense of basic self.

Overall, we discovered that my ipseity, my minimal or basic self, which has been likened to a flame that illuminates what is around it as well as itself--the very construction of consciousness, experience, and first-person perspective--is highly disturbed, in a characteristically schizophrenic manner and has been since at least age 6 and probably since I entered school.

She marked '0' for sense of change in relation to gender, as she thought that being trans did not really count for that item.



It was not denied on the basis of mental illness. Both my psychiatrist and psychologist wrote letters that supported it and that were in tune with both the WPATH v. 7 and my insurance company's gender reassignment policy. It was denied because, even though the Summary Plan Description did not specifically exclude it, the Evidence of Coverage for my plan did.



Well, in my case, it wasn't the gatekeepers, but the actual insurance policy. Being denied SRS is what caused me to be disabled. I could not work in a consistent manner since April 24, 2014, when I received that decision of denial. It forced me onto disability, as my vocational and self-care functioning have taken a nosedive since then--social functioning was always kinda poor. There is concern that I may develop psychosis again like I did at age 14, so my psychiatrist has been very aggressive with the antipsychotic medication. It's possible that the denial kicked off another psychotic prodrome (period of decreasing functioning and increase in non-specific and specific symptoms that leads up to the onset of psychosis).

Nevertheless, I disagree that throwing away gatekeepers will help. They're there to prevent money from being wasted by stupid decisions. If a mental health professional or surgeon isn't doing their job and screening for patients who aren't good candidates, then it's hardly the fault of the patient who gets the recommended surgery, especially if the patient was honest.

Since I'm on SSDI, I may have a shot at surgery through Medicare if and when I become eligible (24 months after you start receiving SSDI).

That's right. And considering your attitude, you sound like a trans woman that would ditch a sister at the time of her greatest need.

I don't need fair-weather friends like you. This was my test.

The reason I am currently disabled is because I was denied SRS. Being denied SRS caused a massive decompensation in my mental health, of a sort that has not been seen in me since the age of 14, when I developed acute psychotic symptoms and became violent and had to be hospitalized for 6 months.

Perhaps receiving SRS would rectify that disability? I have wanted SRS since the age of 8.

Or is it, as Concept says, just an obsession, rather than a need? I guess Concept sees herself as trannier-than-thou.

And trust me, Social Security knows this.

It's splattered all over the pages of my hospital records and psychotherapy notes, which were all sent in to Social Security as part of their Disability Determination.

When my psychologist sent in his psychotherapy notes, he noted that though I had been seeing him for only 17 months, we had already had 82 sessions. Lots of data for Social Security.

I'm not your friend. I'm a random poster on a message board watching a fellow trans woman spout and repost hate-filled rhetoric.

And as for being 'trannier than thou'. No, I don't see myself above you in whatever trans hierarchy that you've built up in your head. The accusation is quite rich and hypocritical of you considering in multiple threads you've refused to accept other trans women's identities because they aren't accepted my the cis-mainstream and whatever constitutes being a woman to you In one thread, you refused to accept other trans women as 'women' in a support group you went to because they behaved outside whatever gender stereotypes you believe in, and in another, you claimed that unless you were socialised at a certain age as a female, had the right mannerisms, voice and social acceptance of the majority, those women weren't really 'women' if that isn't a textbook example of being 'trannier-than-thou', then I don't know what it is. Hence hypocrisy.

You've let bitterness consume you, beneficii. One would hope you have the self-reflection and critical faculties to entertain this idea.

You're clearly hurting a great deal from not being able to get the surgery you want. I hope you get it because I fear you may self-harm and do yourself some damage, and quite frankly, you don't deserve the sh***y treatment that the US medical system provides you and other trans people. But I really wish you would stop slavishly bowing at the alter of TERFs and the likes of Cathy Brennan. A woman that has tried to prevent trans women from getting medical help by personally getting in contact with their doctors and claiming they are mentally ill and harassing the employer of another trans woman to try to get her fired and eventually harassing her to the point that she had a nervous breakdown and had to seek help for her mental health as a result.

If you consider this and continue you as you are, I have little respect for you. Not only that, but your behaviour these last few months is toxic to the LGBT sub-forum here. There will be vulnerable trans women coming out, or who identity as non-binary, who will have been put off posting by your angry, hate-filled posts.

I'm sorry that I can't sugar coat it, but that's how it is.

It's not, because I consider myself to fall into the same low class. I have said that. I was not setting myself up as superior to them, and I thought I made that clear when I mentioned things like my own unpassability (paraphrasing People often misgender me, but I believe in permitting them to) and how my own sister considers me a "man-woman" (perhaps in another thread). I guess not.

I know I am no Nicole Maines. I know I am no Kim Petras. I know that I likely come across in the same contemptible way IRL as the people mentioned above. Perhaps even more so than you.

I was criticizing you for being trannier-than-thou when you mentioned that my need for SRS was a mere obsession.

They need to know the truth, to know the ugly side of this community: If they cannot accept it, then they should not transition.

That one trans woman who started HRT at age 14 I know has had to learn the truth the hard way, from seeing the creepy approaches of older trans women toward her while she was still underage and even a case of molestation from an older trans woman.

I myself have had to learn the truth the hard way, but at least I'm learning it.

What community? Am I also a member of the asthmatic community? Do I need to beware of people in the left-handed community?

I don't see much reason to make a distinction between those who transition early and those who transition late, because I suspect that a lot of the former would be part of the latter if they were born 20 years ago.

Nevertheless, it leads to different outcomes. As an endocrinologist in Boston explained (I think his name is Dr. Spack), once you start HRT in teenagers, it's like they blossom out and come to life. On the other hand, for later transitioners, you often don't see that, as they are pulled down by the weight of their puberty, contacts with people who see them as their birth gender, strongly ingrained behaviors that are difficult to overcome, and all of this leading to only incomplete treatment of dysphoria, while the sense of vitality and spontaneity remain dampened.

There's often a big difference between the two, even from my own observations, when it comes to trans girls and trans women. Basically, those who transitioned and started HRT by high school are a world apart from those who transitioned and started HRT later. For the former, they come across as much less contemptible in their mannerisms and actions, while the vibes you get from the latter are often extremely uncomfortable.

With trans boys and trans men, for some reason, the contempt you feel is often absent.

And yes, I probably vibe wrongly like an older trans woman myself. My own dad has mentioned that my experience of being a woman needs to be demonstrated over time, implying I don't demonstrate it worth crap.

The experience is rather akin to that of seeing a tomato in the mirror. "I cannot stand these people, God!" I think, but then I think "Am I like these people? Aren't I as much of a dork as these people? Don't I come across in the same contemptible way? After all, I am misgendered as much as I am inclined to msigender them!" At that point, I decide the best thing to do would be to avoid socialization as much as possible.

So... you feel contempt for people, based on their unfortunate circumstances?

No. It's based on their mannerisms, speech patterns, and vibes.