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muslimmetalhead
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21 Jul 2012, 12:21 pm

The opposite orientation?
obviously this wouldn't apply to bisexual people but i mean it's unnatural compared to how YOU are oriented. so is it like a natural instinct?

I'm not saying there is anything "immoral" about any orientation, if it's how you've turned out.

i'm just saying, is it like a natural feeling you get?

Just curious.


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21 Jul 2012, 12:47 pm

It depends what you mean by turned off, really. If you mean that you feel neutral, and not in any way turned on then that sounds pretty normal. If you feel uncomfortable, that isn't necessarily wrong - it just depends on how you were brought up. If you have no experience of other sexualities you might feel unsure of your feelings. Feeling horrified, or disgusted is not normal or healthy.

I'm straight, but gay people don't feel 'unnatural' to me, in the same way that straight people who are attracted to different people than I am don't feel unnatural. I really don't spend much time thinking about other people's sexuality, or my own for that matter.



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21 Jul 2012, 12:50 pm

SilkySifaka wrote:
It depends what you mean by turned off, really. If you mean that you feel neutral, and not in any way turned on then that sounds pretty normal. If you feel uncomfortable, that isn't necessarily wrong - it just depends on how you were brought up. If you have no experience of other sexualities you might feel unsure of your feelings. Feeling horrified, or disgusted is not normal or healthy.

I'm straight, but gay people don't feel 'unnatural' to me, in the same way that straight people who are attracted to different people than I am don't feel unnatural. I really don't spend much time thinking about other people's sexuality, or my own for that matter.



Me neither, but there are some lgbt people in my community and i am interested in their thoughts and feelings.


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21 Jul 2012, 1:03 pm

muslimmetalhead wrote:
SilkySifaka wrote:
It depends what you mean by turned off, really. If you mean that you feel neutral, and not in any way turned on then that sounds pretty normal. If you feel uncomfortable, that isn't necessarily wrong - it just depends on how you were brought up. If you have no experience of other sexualities you might feel unsure of your feelings. Feeling horrified, or disgusted is not normal or healthy.

I'm straight, but gay people don't feel 'unnatural' to me, in the same way that straight people who are attracted to different people than I am don't feel unnatural. I really don't spend much time thinking about other people's sexuality, or my own for that matter.



Me neither, but there are some lgbt people in my community and i am interested in their thoughts and feelings.


Well I suppose you could ask them about their thoughts and feelings, if you are close enough friends with them. Otherwise it's probably hard to find out how they feel. Different people have different feelings and there is a huge variety of sexualities even within 'gay' and 'straight'. Each person you meet is going to be different. This is what makes humans so difficult to cope with for people on the spectrum - there is no formula, unfortunately. You could try reading about people's personal experiences in dealing with their sexuality online - for example on this website - Avert. You could also check out the 'It Gets Better' Project ( you could Google it). I'm sure there are lots of others too.



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21 Jul 2012, 3:08 pm

I'm gay but I don't get this question. If you're asking if straight people turn me off the answer is no. If I'm riding an elevator with someone who chooses to fart the whole ride I'm there then, yeah, that'll piss me off.



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21 Jul 2012, 3:50 pm

It's a basic human instinct to dislike that which is different. Some of us are affected to lesser degrees and about different things, but we all have that instinct to some extent. But disliking the opposite sexual orientation specifically doesn't seem like an instinct to me. I've never felt the slightest bit of dislike or repulsion towards homosexuality.



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23 Jul 2012, 12:15 pm

Most certainly not an instinct. It is a learned behaviour.

If a person is socialized to believe that heterosexuality is "normal" and that other sexualities are aberrrant, then it is perfectly understandable that this person might develop an artificial revulsion to homosexuality. But just because it is understandable does not mean that it is inherent or instinctual.


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23 Jul 2012, 5:31 pm

I am attracted to women the same as straight men are attracted to women.

Some women are my taste, and some aren't. I don't get "turned off" by men or even heterosexual women. I am not attracted to men, that's the simple thing to it. I am not attracted to men in the first place.
Yeah I might fancy some women who are straight, same as a straight man might take a fancy to Ellen Degeneres.

Straight men don't get turned off by men, because they're not attracted to them in the first place.


Your question is ridiculous. What is your problem? You are clearly homophobic, just by looking at all your locked topics in the LGBT section. The sooner you are banned, the better. No offence, but clearly you're not getting the idea, as warned by moderators, and as asked by ordinary members.

Either you say no more on the matter of LGBT and keep your account, or continue, and going by what a moderator has said and warned you about, you'll be banned.



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23 Jul 2012, 10:58 pm

I really don't see anything homophobic about this particular thread...



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24 Jul 2012, 2:24 am

UnLoser wrote:
I really don't see anything homophobic about this particular thread...


You need to see his other threads to know that he is.
Homophobia is the phobia of homosexuals, it is NOT gay hating. Not all people with homophobia go around gay bashing. Although, in this case he is.

I don't understand why LGBT people think that gay hating is the same as homophobia.



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24 Jul 2012, 11:23 am

I'm prepared to extend the benefit of the doubt and accept that the question was asked with an honest intention to start a discussion.

There is a line between honest questions and provocation--and certainly some of the OP's other questions have crossed that line. But if we start censoring his questions anticipating that every one of the them crosses the line, then we do ourselves a great disservice.


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25 Jul 2012, 5:54 am

homophobics turn me off



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25 Jul 2012, 6:07 am

no it isnt natural or instinctual to be turned off by the opposite orientation. it is a learned thing. just because you find one thing natural to you it does not mean what comes naturally to another must be seen as a turn off. if i were gay/straight i wouldnt find same sex attracted people gross. if i did it would be because society conditioned me to think that. if i were to find the opposite attraction a turn off i wouldnt like asexuals. this is like the argument that people are racist because they fear/distrust the "other". it's rubbish.



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25 Jul 2012, 6:37 am

My advice ? Stop listening to what other people say on the subject, a lot of what they say is driven by learned moralistic standards borne from social conditioning, fear and 'ism's.

Go with what you feel. An emotion can never be wrong, it is a natural response to external influences. If the opposite gender, orientation or whatever turns you off, fine, no probs. but remember it is your feeling, for you to deal with. Don't treat anyone differently because of your feelings. Just be as natural as possible.



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25 Jul 2012, 12:16 pm

visagrunt wrote:
I'm prepared to extend the benefit of the doubt and accept that the question was asked with an honest intention to start a discussion.

There is a line between honest questions and provocation--and certainly some of the OP's other questions have crossed that line. But if we start censoring his questions anticipating that every one of the them crosses the line, then we do ourselves a great disservice.


I must admit that my questions sound pretty provocative. But I honestly am just trying to get answers.
I ask this particular question because of hearing the term "breeder" in the same way as "fag" or "dyke".


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25 Jul 2012, 1:23 pm

muslimmetalhead wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
I'm prepared to extend the benefit of the doubt and accept that the question was asked with an honest intention to start a discussion.

There is a line between honest questions and provocation--and certainly some of the OP's other questions have crossed that line. But if we start censoring his questions anticipating that every one of the them crosses the line, then we do ourselves a great disservice.


I must admit that my questions sound pretty provocative. But I honestly am just trying to get answers.
I ask this particular question because of hearing the term "breeder" in the same way as "fag" or "dyke".


Breeder is a nasty term that shouldn't be used. No group of people should be denigrating another group of people, or using stereotypes like that.