alana wrote:
I am. Not clear whether you mean NT girls or NT lesbians specifically. NT females are not fun for me to deal with...I have been pretty surprised sometimes that even my super liberal NT straight friends think I have a thing for them. A couple of times I have been really hurt by this because I expected better of them, that they knew me better than that (in the couple cases I am thinking of they were completely not my type, I had no feelings for them beyond basic human concern and they still thought I did, which really pissed me off...I think it's some inherent homophobia that gay people are oversexed and therefore want everyone all the time, or some egotism that they themselves are 'all that' which is grating).
It pisses me off too when they assume that because I have an attraction to some females, I'm attracted to them. I have yet to be attracted to any straight females. Maybe because I don't even consider them as a possibility.
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I don't know that I know any lesbian aspies so I really don't have a basis for comparison. As far as straight NT women go generally I don't have 'real' friendships with them since I always feel they are trying to put me in a box or a pecking order. Women in general I think do the 'crabs in a bucket' thing, where they want to oppress and designate a pecking order.
NT women for most part definitely play games and I refuse to play such stupid games with any of them as well. I haven't had any relationships with AS women to know if any of them play ret*d games like a lot of the NTs do or not. I would like to think most of us are above doing that. But I wouldn't be surprised. We're not all equally on the spectrum.
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I don't feel this from men, at least not outside of work, work is different, where with guys I won't feel it til they feel threatened. With women it's not just work, it's every aspect of life where it feels like they want to make sure no one has 'more' or 'better' than them.
Most of the time men will not play this game with me either because they don't consider me a threat or someone who is competing. But I know lots of NT men who play the same games just like the NT women. My best friend can be like that sometimes. I find him beyond annoying when he gets like that and it's not directed at me, it's when I hear him talking about him doing it with other men. And it seems even worse in small towns. Everybody is desperately trying to play "king of the hill". I'm always like "have fun children." and go find a good book to read in peace and quiet somewhere.
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I'm not really good at articulating this but it's a total drag to be around so I avoid it whenever possible. Like over who has bigger breasts or better hair, a bigger house, smarter kids (I don't have kids but I have picked up on it), whatever. I mean, every freaking thing is a competition, and it just wears me out the way they operate.
Yes every F-ing thing is a competition. Does it ever, it wear me out too.
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I am capable of being genuninely happy for other people's good fortune, and i really don't understand people who aren't...it's always a shock to me to find out people are not genuinely happy for me if something good happens.
Yes, I am sincerely happy for people too but they just do not seem to realise or understand it's not a competition for me. It use to surprise me but not so much anymore.
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I try to limit my exposure to that stuff as much as possible. It would probably be accurate to say that I just avoid relating to NT straight females on a 'real' level as much as humanly possible. I have met alot of NT lesbians who have similar values although being a part of an oppressed minority does make them a bit deeper as people, most of the time.
I have never once watched Desperate Housewives. I never had an interest to do that like my mother and sisters. Now I know why. I'm happier when I avoid relationships with NT women. I agree, NT Lesbians/Bisexual Women do have similar values for the most part. But aren't shallow like their straight NT sisters.
Taupey
BTW I'm an AS Bisexual Woman