Has the LGBT community become a deranged cult?
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But more and more lesbians are going anti-trans
And trans-medicalists(truscum) are anti-non-binary
And gay men abandoning identity politics and doing there own thing
The LGBTQ protective umbrella does not exist in reality
Every identity in the LGBTQ is going to have to find there own protective umbrella and advocates,the walls have crumbled on Alpha-bet city.
I do wish I was wrong,sad indeed.
As a non-binary person myself, I find it hilarious how some people can get their panties in a wad about non-binary individuals.
I'm just sitting here, minding my own business, and being non-binary. Some folks seriously need to chill.
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There is nothing wrong with being gay or bi. There is nothing wrong with being binary trans or non-binary. There is nothing wrong with having additional representation in the media to before when there was only 1 positive character. There is nothing inherently wrong with being different - unless that 'different' is harmful to others, for eg paedophiles and murderers are hopefully different to most people.
I find offline things are normal. I'm trans and bi myself. A lot of my offline friends are some form of LGBT.
I find people online annoying. Not everyone. People who are on twitter all day and never tweet about anything other than their sexuality or gender. That is annoying, introspected and if they keep seeking out homophobes/transphobes, probably not very healthy.
The internet seems to encourage even NTs to obsess over things. Esp to do with identity. I don't think that's a good idea, I'd rather people got hobbies for eg. Even I worry about what I say in case someone takes it the wrong way - but only online.
I can be in a progressive space offline and for eg say (true anecdote) 'she... I mean they' and my friend who's non-binary can be fine with that. Some people online would take offence if you accidentally misgendered them then apologised.
Even the transphobes and homophobes are probably a lot more well rounded people offline. Online, they obsess over something they might hate or (at best) don't understand. At least one demographic they hate/don't understand. That's not healthy. They'd be better off getting hobbies, too.
I wish JKR would focus her energies into destigmatising single mothers, working on domestic violence campaigns and raising money for poor people in Scotland rather than on this trans thing she's got worked up about. Or that she'd just throw herself into writing novels which have nothing to do with trans stuff. But that's the internet - it keeps feeding obsessions back at people. You need to be really careful over it.
It starts to feel like me as an aspie has more of a wide range of interests than some NTs. And that doesn't fit right with me. You're more than just your tribe.
Me and those LGBT friends? We talk about media we like. We talk about art we create. We talk about politics - not just LGBT or identity politics. We talk about relationships (which yes fits into LGBT but love is love, breakups are breakups, crushes are crushes). We talk to each other and to cis het people and in groups where there's a mixture and we don't really think about this stuff unless it's relevant.
It's why I left 'SJW' twitter but still talk about being part of the community if it happens to come up on other social media platforms or irl. I talk about it in passing. I don't obsess over it. Obsessing over your identity or someone else's isn't healthy imo.
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Sure, there are a very few real-life examples that can be used to 'justify' the stereotypes; but just as a gratuitous sex scene does nothing to advance a plot, so too does gratuitous sexuality (of any kind) do nothing to enhance a scene ... unless a police drama needs an "oppressed victim" to establish the storyline.
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Sure, there are a very few real-life examples that can be used to 'justify' the stereotypes; but just as a gratuitous sex scene does nothing to advance a plot, so too does gratuitous sexuality (of any kind) do nothing to enhance a scene ... unless a police drama needs an "oppressed victim" to establish the storyline.
Stereotypes, or tropes, are just an easy language to use in media.
I am a little curious by what you refer to as gratuitous sexuality doing nothing for a scene. At what point does sexuality reach gratuitous levels? Because I think that sexuality can be important for characters and scenes.
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I like the way Star Trek: Discovery portrayed a gay couple: their morning routine of shaving next to each other, one of them loving opera and the other loving how his partner loves opera but not opera itself... just a loving, intimate couple, without overt sexualization.
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Nothing wrong with 'gratuitous sexuality' in a scene. Cis het guys get that kind of thing appealed to them all the time, random character turns up in a lapdancing club for eg.
Just make sure you give the thing an age rating (or American equivalent so like make it pg13 or whatever's above that) so kids don't see it.
I've noticed (I don't watch a lot of sexual stuff but watch a lot of horror series) that netflix has started doing that. I really like that. In my day, TV shows didn't really have age ratings apart from 'after the watershed' vaguely meaning 'for grown ups'. It was just movies that did.
And I have the same standards as for cis het people when it comes to showing 'sexual' stuff around kids. I coped with Gary Sparrow kissing a woman he wasn't into to distract attention on Goodnight Sweetheart, so kids can handle two women kissing for the sake of something other than love on shows nowadays. It's the same thing. Kissing is fine, hugging is fine, beyond that then it should have an age rating - regardless of who it's between.
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Very true. It's always the most vocal minority which make the whole bunch look bad though.
In this case it's more that a vocal minority fought for the rights which the entire community now benefits from. In who's eyes do they look bad (except for the same people who would always disapprove of non-het orientations and non-cis gender identities)?
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