Resurrecting Time Lords

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So THAT'S why I can't get a girlfriend! LOL. I watched some of the other Doctor Who related YouTube videos, including a couple on the Sontarans and some on the Master.

Quatermass, have you seen Rasillon's YouTube video with excerpts from the Deadly Assassin and Invasion of Time?

Uh, no. I have seen both stories in full, however. In fact, I have seen all TV stories set, to one degree or another, on Gallifrey. I have also read a number of the NAs, MAs, EDAs and PDAs, especially Goth Opera, Lungbarrow, The Eight Doctors, Alien Bodies, Interference, and The Gallifrey Chronicles. I also know enough about the plots of other Gallifrey-centric stories such as Time's Crucible, Blood Harvest and The Ancestor Cell. Your story is mildly plausible, but somehow doesn't quite fit.

So, here's some points I wish to make:

1. If the Matrix was somehow reconstructed in some form or another, why was no attempt made to contact the Doctor? After all, it was hinted throughout the new series that he was responsible (and presumably by consent of any remaining Time Lords) for ending the Time War, presumably by destroying Gallifrey. Is it because they're too scared to draw attention to themselves?

2. The courtroom vessel, as a Gallifreyan artifact, would surely have been tracked down and destroyed or taken over by the Daleks and their allies. After all, it was said that they took an artifact/planet/space-station/weapon known as the Cruciform. Surely a space station, even one in a graveyard, would have been a doddle.

3. Karn is often said to be in the same solar system as Gallifrey. What happened to it?

4. I can name at least two other libraries that Gallifreyans have built elsewhere in the cosmos: the Braxiatel Collection, and the Library at Carsus. The latter, due to its multiversal nature, probably was a victim of the Time War, but the Braxiatel Collection either was superseded by the Library founded by the Lux family, or else faded into obscurity, IMO.

5. I just found an interesting passage in a Wikipedia article on Irving Braxiatel:



According to the synopsis, Leela is also with them.

Jubilation! Thank you for all this. I have seen all the Gallifrey episodes as well. What do you think of Borusa?

Maybe the Daleks dismissed the vessel as an insignificant threat that could be neutralised later, right up until they were destroyed by the Doctor along with Gallifrey.

Prior to the creation of the physical Matrix, in my novel the Matrix is a higher order power capable of manipulating Gallifreyan history. She regards the Library, which has a similar role in the history of humanity, as a sister and the Bad Wolf Temporal Paradox as a distant cousin. These entities seek to manipulate history towards gaining a physical manifestation while conversely helping physical beings ascend to their realm.

And I am not sure that I would be too keen on contacting someone who had destroyed me, whatever the circumstances.

Can the Eternals be contacted?

One wonders if he really did reform after The Five Doctors, as Terrance Dicks wrote in Blood Harvest and The Eight Doctors....



I say bollocks.



Possible, but not part of my imagined Whovian continuity.



Surely they'd understand the anguish he was going through, if they had any means of observing the universe.



RTD suggested that they had fled this universe during the Time War. Personally, I think some stayed behind. Certainly I think that the Guardians still exist. In fact, one character they should bring back is the Celestial Toymaker. Maybe Michael Gough is still up to playing him.

Romana returns!

Is there the slightest possibility that the unknown female with the Master's ring at the end of The Last of the Time Lords could be a new incarnation of the Rani?

Like Rassilon, by the end, no one knew how extensive the master's powers were. The fact that he regenerated at all (and that the doctor believed that he could again) suggests that he had once again obtained those powers. Couple that with the cat-people powers and his snake powers and his "join" with the eye of harmony, who knows... perhaps the master was able to do a "person jump" without anyone being aware of it.

Or, it's far more likely that the hand was Lucy Saxon. After all, the Master may have spent that past year brainwashing her...

What do you mean, far more likely? How come you are so close in the Master's counsels? Are you in league with him or something?

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Bit of a giveaway really. He did have an escape plan after all.

Possible, but not part of my imagined Whovian continuity.

It's my story and I'll depart from canon if I want to



Surely they'd understand the anguish he was going through, if they had any means of observing the universe.


Irate disembodied Time Lord: "HE'S had a hard time?


RTD suggested that they had fled this universe during the Time War. Personally, I think some stayed behind. Certainly I think that the Guardians still exist. In fact, one character they should bring back is the Celestial Toymaker. Maybe Michael Gough is still up to playing him. :)[/quote]

Motion seconded!

What ever happened to the Hermit/Abbot K'An Po/Ch'o Je? Is he still on Earth, or being rather older than the Doctor has he reached the end of his regeneration cycle and unlike the Master accepted his mortality with stoicism? Was he recalled in an advisory capacity to Gallifrey at the time of the Time War?

Ah, I suspected as much. And I was relying on him to stop me in the event of the Drumming, the Call to War infecting me (now I come to think of it, the stimming infected him first, and I found out from him about it before seeing the Return of the Master Trilogy - Utopia, The Sound of Drums and The Last of the Time Lords not the Keeper of Traken, Logopolis and Castrovalva) and turning me into this Universe's Death's Champion. Obviously he has split his consciousness and the stimming is his means of bridging the Void into other worlds and seeking out fitting Vessels of Wrath.

We are the Masters and you will obey us; you WILL obey us! In the event of contradictory orders you shall retain the luxury of the freedom to choose which Master you shall be enthralled to.

Two new bodies... at last. Two Masters and no Doctor! My/our triumph is complete!

(After a pause) Actually, I miss old Theta Sigma; life is so devoid of meaning without a great and worthy opponent to spar with and sharpen one's wits against... I shall have to summon the interfering clown's consciousness into gbollard.

Use Occam's razor.

Think about it:

1. The Rani would be probably more than happy to let the Master rot, even if she did survive the Time War. You saw how well they got along during the events of Mark of the Rani. If you haven't, then let me tell you, he pissed her off something fierce.

2. The hand was Caucasian, female and had red fingernail polish. The former definitively rules out any members of Martha's family (in case the Master brainwashed them) and the fingernail polish indicates that this wasn't the Sinister Woman, aka Miss Dexter. My guess is, it is Lucy Saxon.



Who knows? K'anpo has been a bit of a random element, as had Iris Wildthyme.

And there are rumours that the Meddling Monk will return. Wouldn't surprise me if David Morrisey's 'Doctor' in The Next Doctor is the Monk. I know that they said that Patrick Stewart was to play the Monk, but we've never seen him regenerate...

That would be all very well, except gbollard misspelt Quatermass. Not only that, but he was mentioned in Doctor Who.

And personally, I prefer to think of myself as, if not the Doctor, then Drax. " 'Allo Thete!"

now I'm really confused...I though Leela was on Futurama...sucks when I've seen 3 years out of 40...

Calloo, Callay, Oh Frabjous day!

I will concede that while the Master admires the Rani - taste the chemistry! - she basically despises both the Master and the Doctor as bumbling overgrown schoolboys who should be sent back to the Academy to write, "I shall not interfere in Ushas' brilliant scientific experiments that are manifestly for the betterment of the Universe," 100, 000, 000, 000, 000 times.

She might have wished to revive the Master as a slave or conduct experiments on his greatly modified body, maybe creating copies of past incarnations including the eleven unseen Masters, as well as the familiar Delgado, Trakenite, Bruce, Yana and Saxon incarnations, with their brain chemistry so altered that while they retain enough genius and drive to conquer to enable them to be her Ultimate Weapons against the Shadow Proclamation, their will will be totally subordinated to hers so that once the headquarters of the Shadow Proclamation have been turned into New Gallifrey, they will bow before her, crowning her the War Empress.

She will then send them out to capture Romana, the Doctor and any other Time Ladies or Lords who may be stowing away anywhere while she creates new looms and gains old servants from erstwhile conquests of hers using them to throw the bodies of her people on the looms, adding the titles Pythia and New Matriarch of Gallifrey to that of War Empress.

She will conquer Kaan and recreate the Untempered Schism, now modified as a portal; she will return to Lakertya and alter the events of Time and the Rani and use her new Time Manipulator to rewrite history at will, ensuring that Traken, Logopolis, Xeriphas and Skaro survive, but as vassals of the New Gallifreyan Empire; she will conquer numerous other planets and further modify the Untempered Schism to open onto other universes and her final title will be Imperatrix Mundorum et Domina Temporum.

THERE!