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17 Apr 2009, 6:59 pm

I must confess I am love with genuine patriotic music.

Favourite band is Russian right-wing extremist band Kolovrat.

This is my absolute favourite song.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDYQPx_6IcQ[/youtube]



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17 Apr 2009, 8:20 pm

i reccoment rock against bush albums ;) bush bashin is a hobby of mine...


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17 Apr 2009, 9:06 pm

My favorite patriotic music is early Bob Dylan.

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18 Apr 2009, 2:20 am

For genuine patriotic music I'd say Woody Guthrie, homeless hobo bypassing the crooks and liars in power to remind us...

"This land is your land,
This land is my land...
This land was made for you and me."


And there's Paul Simon:

"For we come on the ship they call the Mayflower,
We come on the ship that sailed the moon."

"Still, when I think of the road we're traveling on
I wonder what's gone wrong."


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18 Apr 2009, 6:15 am

In my view,

Anchors Aweigh and the Marine Corps Hymn are patriotic as well as moving to my heart.


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18 Apr 2009, 12:28 pm

Patriotic music is usually pretty kitsch and fanciful. Kolovrat is average sounding, which is about right for a skinhead group that weren't really musical to start with. It is ironic that people blend Nazism and Russian nationalism given the history, all those Russian nationals that died in battle with Germany or froze to death. it is not like you can talk of white/red Russian because it concerns two wars.

A good example of how patriotic music is mostly aspiration is “Jerusalem” which is a English patriotic hymn by William Blake:

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Jerusalem - William Blake

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountain green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.


Don’t get me wrong the guy was a great poet and painter, but very much in his own world. Teary eyed revellers who sing it, don’t really get that it was never intended to be a hymn. It was merely a preface to Milton: a Poem called And did those feet in ancient time and unrelated to another work called Jerusalem.



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18 Apr 2009, 1:05 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
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And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountain green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.




I know it is not germane to the topic here, but rejecting the actual rich spiritual histories of Britain for some middle eastern religion grafted on is just (gasp)rediculous. However it is not to divert from the topic the OP started.

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18 Apr 2009, 11:59 pm

I like The Star Spangled Banner because the imagery is so vivid and compelling.


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19 Apr 2009, 5:27 am

Irish rebel songs are a hobby of mine. I disagree with almost everything the IRA's done since 1972, but the have the best songs
Christy Moore granny's dustbin lid
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXe_5pLe6H0[/youtube]

The songs about older days have an emotional appeal that transcends the fail that this country's always been

Follow me up to Carlow - performed by Planxty
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uggbzBtGbJw[/youtube]

The Foggy Dew - performed by Sinead O Connor and the Chieftans
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF1KoIQVK5g[/youtube]

Rocky Road to Dublin - performed by the Dubliners
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nUUFEfy9x0[/youtube]


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19 Apr 2009, 5:29 am

sinsboldly wrote:
I know it is not germane to the topic here, but rejecting the actual rich spiritual histories of Britain for some middle eastern religion grafted on is just (gasp)rediculous.

MErle


Bathory agree with you :wink:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpc-831GPs[/youtube]


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19 Apr 2009, 11:28 am

I love American patriotic music, and have a large collection on my iPod.

Perhaps my favorite is the one my great-great-grandmother wrote (the words anyway), The Battle Hymn of the Republic. Believe it or not that's a coincidence, I loved it long before I knew about her. :D


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19 Apr 2009, 4:46 pm

god bless the usa
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ[/youtube]



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20 Apr 2009, 6:19 am

Two favourites of mine;

Maggie Holland's "A Place Called England"

England is not flag or Empire,
It is not money, it is not blood,
It's limestone gorge and granite fell,
It's Wealden clay and Severn mud,
It's blackbird singing from the may tree,
Lark ascending through the scales,
Robin watching from your spade,
And English earth beneath your nails.


The Levellers' "England My Home"

Why is it, England, I feel like rubbish on your streets?
Why is it when I care I feel incomplete?
Why does our future seem such a feat?
When will our consciousness finally meet?
Oh England, you're my home,
You're my heart's heart,
Crashing thunder of love.


And also;

"Lock the door, Lariston" (James Hogg/trad.)

Which is an alliterative poem that the author admitted didn't have a lot to do with historical reality, but it's a great song.

"Why dost thou smile, noble Eliot of Lariston?
Why do the joy-candles gleam in thine eyes?
Thou bold border ranger, beware of thy danger,
Thy foes are relentless, determined and nigh."


And,

"The Flowers of the Forest" (trad., not sure whose lyrics these are exactly as there's any number of different versions)

"I've heard them lilting,
At the ewe milking,
And I've heard them lilting,
Before break of day,
Now they are mourning,
For all time lamenting,
The flowers of the forest,
Are all we'd away."


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20 Apr 2009, 9:33 pm

where do i start tons of punk music glore: sum 41, rise against, billy talent,green day, three days grace,bad relgion, nofx,less than jake,ill scarelt,silverstein, escape the fate, senses fail, afi, the misfits, gob, black flag, minor threat, bad brains, anti-flag, susidal tenddicies, the enlgish beat, rx bandits, mikcey wah wah, gen x,revlitonary con,mest, wlid joe, talking heads,dead kennedies ,pod,pos and the fully down. protest metal like, system of a down, slipknot, gwar,trapt, apoctpytia and ill nino. even some protest rap like jay z, young jeezy, cyniks, dl incognito, lupe fiasco, chaminilare, ice t, beastie boys, run dmc,public enemy and ice cube.



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21 Apr 2009, 2:57 am

silvskaterdude wrote:
where do i start tons of punk music glore: sum 41, rise against, billy talent,green day, three days grace,bad relgion, nofx,less than jake,ill scarelt,silverstein, escape the fate, senses fail, afi, the misfits, gob, black flag, minor threat, bad brains, anti-flag, susidal tenddicies, the enlgish beat, rx bandits, mikcey wah wah, gen x,revlitonary con,mest, wlid joe, talking heads,dead kennedies ,pod,pos and the fully down. protest metal like, system of a down, slipknot, gwar,trapt, apoctpytia and ill nino. even some protest rap like jay z, young jeezy, cyniks, dl incognito, lupe fiasco, chaminilare, ice t, beastie boys, run dmc,public enemy and ice cube.


I'm really not into Patriotic music or the concept of patriotism in general, but I fail to see how most of these bands are considered patriotic music..lol...Well the ones i've even heard of anyway....I mean GWAR??? lol really?


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21 Apr 2009, 3:35 pm

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silvskaterdude wrote:
where do i start tons of punk music glore: sum 41, rise against, billy talent,green day, three days grace,bad relgion, nofx,less than jake,ill scarelt,silverstein, escape the fate, senses fail, afi, the misfits, gob, black flag, minor threat, bad brains, anti-flag, susidal tenddicies, the enlgish beat, rx bandits, mikcey wah wah, gen x,revlitonary con,mest, wlid joe, talking heads,dead kennedies ,pod,pos and the fully down. protest metal like, system of a down, slipknot, gwar,trapt, apoctpytia and ill nino. even some protest rap like jay z, young jeezy, cyniks, dl incognito, lupe fiasco, chaminilare, ice t, beastie boys, run dmc,public enemy and ice cube.


I'm really not into Patriotic music or the concept of patriotism in general, but I fail to see how most of these bands are considered patriotic music..lol...Well the ones i've even heard of anyway....I mean GWAR??? lol really?

i consider patortic music anything with a reblious sound that tries to be uncommon, to do something that may be hated by the genreal public gwar for insteince, most people don't like thrash metal or metalcore, heck they hate metal period but gwar combined the metalcore and thrash sounds and made a genre called thrashcore. most of the bands i anmed ether sing about potlical mess; protest the system and have a grunge against what is common like the fully down the sing in an angery fashion about curent pop culture and how people are sheep dueing what is ever common just to be popular. which of these bands have you heard give me the names and i will tell you how i define them as patriotic; it means to do something rebleiouis a patriot is a rebal so i think any bands or rappers that rebel and do something difreant are rebals all the rap i said there all rap about poltics and s**t not just the sameo hod crap.