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26 Oct 2009, 10:14 am

Also some people just become closed, they are unwilling to filter through the crap to find good stuff. People that are interested in music note that we are actually going through a bit of serge of music at the moment. We are making more music that we every did. Manly because it is become easier to produce an make. Hopefully this will be a thorn in the side of the commercial producers who are more interested in making a quick buck than great music.

You know songs that you can’t get out of you head, but some of them you hate. This has been studied there is a formula.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:17 am

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How arbitrary is it to just hate everything after a certain cut off date? I'm a big fan of old music but there's some equally amazing music being made today, shame you're all missing out on it.


That's absolutely true but I wonder if they are specifically referring to top 40 pop. I like a lot of today's music, but it's not on the radio.
i agree.
maybe this guy just hates overplayed top 40 pop type.
there's so much good music these days.

modest mouse
silverstein
3Oh!3
the shins
good charlotte
blink182
weezer
three days grace
the postal service
death cab for cutie
demon hunter
say anything
senses fail
onerepublic
nickelback
adam and andrew
kings of leon
brand new
taking back sunday
the black eyed peas
maroon 5
until june
the maine
blue october
the fray
eminem
sufjan stevens
simon & garfunkel (old though i know)
william fitzsimmons
slipknot
korn
mest
bob marley
boys like girls
we the kings
jars of clay
gorillaz
the devil wears prada
moneta
dashboard confessional
hawthorne heights
hot hot heat
the pharmacy
the medic droid
daft punk
gregory and the hawk
jet
owl city
sherwood
chase coy
snow patrol
sublime
bloodhound gang
breaking benjamin
guns n roses
metallica
acdc
iron maiden
the beatles
the eagles
finch
fort minor
grizzly bear
jack johnson
journey
nine days
nirvana
ozzy
papa roach
plain white t's
the posies
pink floyd
queen
the ramones
red hot chili peppers
red jumpsuit apparatus
reel big fish
the scene aesthetic
wolfmother
yelloward
jedi mind tricks
immortal technique


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26 Oct 2009, 11:36 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Also some people just become closed, they are unwilling to filter through the crap to find good stuff. People that are interested in music note that we are actually going through a bit of serge of music at the moment. We are making more music that we every did. Manly because it is become easier to produce an make. Hopefully this will be a thorn in the side of the commercial producers who are more interested in making a quick buck than great music.

You know songs that you can’t get out of you head, but some of them you hate. This has been studied there is a formula.


I can see that. I think that is the big thing with the majority of popular music right now. It's about finding a good "hook artist". I think that is ALL that Lil' Wayne is. But just because something is "catchy" doesn't make it good.



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26 Oct 2009, 12:27 pm

I was watching a very interesting documentary series on music in America during the 20th Century.

It suggested that music used to be very regional (the "sounds" of bands and local artists would change as one listened to the local radio stations on a drive across the US (either coast to coast or, especially, North to South).

Now, music is pretty much generic. You can drive east/west, north/south, from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico - everyone listens to the same stuff (even the radio stations are owned by huge companies that run stations across the states).

Another thing that the documentary mentioned was a trend that began in the 1950's (starting with the song "Mule Train" by Frankie Lane) - it was a song that needed to be listened to - it was not conducive to singing along (like around a campfire or something). Most earlier music could be purchased as a record and/or purchased as sheet music from a music store. A person could also easily arrange the chords on their own and play a guitar or piano with a group of friends and enjoy singing. After the trend to make the arrangements and music more complex - it was difficult to do this.

I have a bunch of old songbooks (easy listening, Broadway showtunes, songs from the 1910's through to early 1970's) which I enjoy just sitting and singing (no musical accompaniment). I also find songs on sheet music (like ballads) from the 1990s and 21st century - but these are harder to come by.



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26 Oct 2009, 1:03 pm

I started a career in radio just about the same time that disco really HIT BIG - and it was my job to play it hour after hour all day long and pretend to believe it was the greatest thing since air conditioning. Had to go home every day and spend several hours listening to Judas Priest and Scorpions just to clear that incessant electronic thumping out of my brain. I cheered when rock fans gathered in stadiums to burn BeeGees records. That stuff was a blight on human creativity.

That was more than thirty years ago. Now I have to admit, I not only actually ENJOY hearing all those crappy mindless dance tunes - each and every one of them is a storehouse of TREASURED MEMORIES - because when I hear them now, I don't remember Studio 54 - I remember the girls I was dating the month this or that song was a hit, the movies I saw, the road trips, the concerts, the adventures and the friends that I knew. Sometimes the right music can even evoke the sense memory of a specific smell from the past. Go figure.

All I know is, while there are forms of musical expression I don't personally appreciate much, I can usually find at least a song or two in any genre that I can resonate to, even if I don't like to admit it. I don't know WHY I like Snoop's 'Drop it Like its Hot', but I do...and I can't say I'm a FAN of James Brown, but his squealing and shouting always makes me smile "Ow! I can't STAND myself!". :D

Probably has a lot to do with the region where I was raised, but I even like some backwoods country gospel in very small doses. Who can't howl out a verse of 'Bringing in the Sheaves' and not grin*? And I can listen to Rob Zombie, or Depeche Mode for a few minutes, but I wouldn't want to sit in a club where their music was being played nonstop (me in a club - yeah, right- but you get the point).

Anyhow, there's a tuner on the radio dial for a reason, and an OFF switch as well if things get too obnoxious or boring. I'd be the last person to defend a lot of the CRAP that is foisted on the public in the name of Pop Music, but rather than waste energy HATING anything, just move past what doesn't trip your personal trigger and find what does. There are always a few artists out there doing something edgy and exciting, no matter what exciting means to you.

And be open to the notion that what doesn't do a thing for you today...may grow on you later, even if you find yourself hiding in a closet so your friends won't catch you listening to it. :wink:


Oh, yes - the 50s. Yeah, As a child, my dad kept the radio tuned to a station that played Patti Page and Dion and The McGuire Sisters, (I didn't realize till much later it was an oldies station) so I love that stuff, too - Pat Boone ROCKS (as long as he's not trying to rock)! His cover of Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti" is at once hummable and hilariously whitebread. But it's true, you have to hear what was popular in the early 50s to understand just how rebellious the sound of Elvis and Carl Perkins and Jerry Lee Lewis was. Same with the Beatles a few years later - "She Loves You" wasn't anything too radical - a British version of the Beach Boys sound - but when the Fab Four met Dylan and he got them high for the first time...that's when Lennon held his guitar up to the amp and got that fuzzy feedback sound that leads off "I Feel Fine". Rock'n'Roll was a whole new world after that, baby.
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*See Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's "Will the Circle be Unbroken" series for fantastic purist old school examples of this genre.



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26 Oct 2009, 3:23 pm

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What kind of music do you like?
What kind of music do I like? I'll tell you my friend,
The Beatles
As I Lay Dying
Metallica
Disturbed
Daft Punk
Bullet For My Valentine
Judas Priest
Three Days Grace
Nonpoint
Breaking Benjamin
Children Of Bodom
Pantera
Limp Bizkit
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26 Oct 2009, 3:59 pm

music is a reflection and projection of the human soul and emotional outburst, since people become more fabricated so does our music today, so there you have it. As long as people play pretend so does our feelings and the result becomes demand and supply, musicians don't pave paths anymore they just satisfy.

Soul Asylum - Runaway Train
Joan Osborne - One of Us
The Cranberries - Zombie
Bell Book & Candle - Rescue Me
The Cure - Lullaby
The Who - Love reign over me
Suede - Beautiful Ones
SUEDE - SHE'S IN FASHION
Echo & The Bunnymen - The Killing Moon
Pixies - Where Is My Mind
Pixies - Velouria
Queens Of The Stone Age - The Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret
The Cardigans - Lovefool
All Along The Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix/Dylan

Those were times...



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30 Oct 2009, 12:55 am

search harder :p



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30 Oct 2009, 12:51 pm

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Also another pop song that I simply cannot stand is that Single Ladies song, you know by Beyonce. Look, I don't have a problem with Beyonce, it's just that her damn Single Ladies song is so annoying that it get's to the point wear you want to rip your own ears off! So please feel free to tell me what you think if hate today's music as much as I do.


Thank god I'm not the only one. I'm so sick of the popularity behind Beyonce's Single Ladies (especially in association with babies or homosexuality). It kinda makes me want to blow my brains out. It's not even that good of a song or a dance. Seriously.



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30 Oct 2009, 3:00 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:
firebird93 wrote:
Also another pop song that I simply cannot stand is that Single Ladies song, you know by Beyonce. Look, I don't have a problem with Beyonce, it's just that her damn Single Ladies song is so annoying that it get's to the point wear you want to rip your own ears off! So please feel free to tell me what you think if hate today's music as much as I do.


Thank god I'm not the only one. I'm so sick of the popularity behind Beyonce's Single Ladies (especially in association with babies or homosexuality). It kinda makes me want to blow my brains out. It's not even that good of a song or a dance. Seriously.


I am blissfully ignorant of this kind of stuff. Of course there's always a chance I'll miss something good.


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31 Oct 2009, 10:18 pm

i love todays music


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01 Nov 2009, 6:30 am

your talking about music you see on TV and hear in the mainstream theirs actually a crapload of awsome music bumping on the underground and alot if it isn't even that, underground you just have to dig a little deeper that the top 40.



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01 Nov 2009, 6:50 am

Tomo670 wrote:
your talking about music you see on TV and hear in the mainstream theirs actually a crapload of awsome music bumping on the underground and alot if it isn't even that, underground you just have to dig a little deeper that the top 40.


I agree-there is a lot to discover :) and I have only scratched the surface. I was personally talking about mainstream top 40.


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01 Nov 2009, 8:00 am

I hate rap and pop, however I love a lot of todays music, such as Lordi, Sabaton, Dragonforce, Metallica, Kmfdm, Alestorm, Rammstein, and Apocolyptica. And yes, blasting it on 5.1s is a blast for me.


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01 Nov 2009, 9:37 am

Ditto my friend. Ditto. :wink:

The majority of my music that continues into the 2000s are continuing bands such as System of a Down, and Autechre etc.

Browse through my music collection, and you won't find a hint of (c)rap (Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, N.W.A, Eminem Pre-Encore etc. RULE) or hip-hop, pop s**t. :D



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01 Nov 2009, 10:13 am

Two words; college stations. Saved my life in the late 70s (Willard, if you were forced to play disco, you're going to Heaven, because you've spent your time in Hell...;). Heard U2's 'I Will Follow' (I think that's the name of it), which was so uncompletely like 'have you ever been mellow?' and the rest of the period music. Took up with that, new wave, alternative, etc., and totally forgot to gripe about how much better 70s music was than this newfangled stuff...HEY! you kids get off my lawn!...;)

College stations (check the web, or just look down near the 80-90Mhz areas of the radio dial, at least in the US), will play anything. Sometimes it's crap, sometimes it's good; but that's mass media for you...;)

Another place (found here) is lastfm. A web site; you plug in a band name, and it plays them, then other bands that 'sound like' them. occasionally, it's good, sometimes so way off it's funny.

Young people really get into music; it's very important to them, so that's why they sing it, etc.


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