Does all aspies have natural talent to write good?

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04 Mar 2013, 8:21 am

Fnord ^ That's great! We found out you can't walk on water. (sorry in a goofy mood, couldn't resist) That must have felt good to receive that feedback.


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I started out British and came to America at a young age, I had a number of horrible teachers who corrected my British terms instead of telling me there were alternatives, not to mention the English language contradicts its own rules which irritates me. This put me off English subjects in school, so my skills lack.


I'm an American - but when I was very young, my cousins in Ireland and I exchanged many books by mail, so I learned many British spellings and terms. Which often got me into trouble with my teachers, but I didn't let them grind me down... ;)


Have you read Enid Blyton? I was very, very young at the time kindergarten-1st grade, so that influence the teachers had was too great to know the difference about self-preservation/letting things roll off my back. My mum handled them instead. :D But sadly the seeds were already planted.



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07 Mar 2013, 4:27 am

I certainly hope so, or I might very well be wasting my life pursuing a literary career. :(

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07 Mar 2013, 11:20 am

Fnord wrote:
Zetablades wrote:
Does all aspies have natural talent to write good?

Apparently, not all Aspies have a talent for writing.

"Do all Aspies have a natural talent to write well?"

Some Aspies apparently do, however.


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07 Mar 2013, 11:40 am

I can get my point across pretty well. I am prone to minor mistakes, which I hate. :lol:


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07 Mar 2013, 11:52 am

That was one area that was always effortless for me, but I haven't enjoyed writing creatively in a long time. I had poetry published when I was young, but I always felt like if I pursued it I'd just feel silly ,self-absorbed, and pretentious. (Think of the mother in Running With Scissors 8O )



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07 Mar 2013, 2:01 pm

Writing is my passion, no doubt about it. The problem I see is that I don't believe I'm getting the right motivation or initiative to do so. I'm also a rabid perfectionist, and I tend to beat myself up over the tiniest flaws in my work. It is possible that I have the disease to please. Something that I've learned is that you can't please everyone; I enjoy Dean Koontz's stuff, even when the protagonists are Mary Sues and the themes are delivered with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. I consider L. Ron Hubbard's Battlefield Earth to be comedic genius. Although I've never read anything by the infamous Stephanie Meyer, five words come to mind when thinking of Twilight: The Valley of the Dolls.


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07 Mar 2013, 2:14 pm

I've always been told that I'm a very good writer. Recently I wrote a kind of tongue-in-cheek article concerning feminism's influence on the "Disney Princess" franchise, to be published in a newsletter.


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07 Mar 2013, 5:02 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
Writing is my passion, no doubt about it. The problem I see is that I don't believe I'm getting the right motivation or initiative to do so. I'm also a rabid perfectionist, and I tend to beat myself up over the tiniest flaws in my work. It is possible that I have the disease to please. Something that I've learned is that you can't please everyone; I enjoy Dean Koontz's stuff, even when the protagonists are Mary Sues and the themes are delivered with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. I consider L. Ron Hubbard's Battlefield Earth to be comedic genius. Although I've never read anything by the infamous Stephanie Meyer, five words come to mind when thinking of Twilight: The Valley of the Dolls.


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07 Mar 2013, 5:17 pm

Honestly, it takes many years to write well. And just let the critic go by-buy- it can tear up your novel to pieces if it was too.

When my final drafts done, I'll give it to her before I jet out. I'll be upset if I have to hear her telling me about my book. :(



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07 Mar 2013, 6:33 pm

Even bad writing can be good...

"The Snooze of Kilimanjaro", by Mark Silber, Grand-Prize Winner (1986) of the International Imitation Hemingway Competition.

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He could taste Death in the wind. He could hear it tiptoe around the campsite. He could see it climbing a tree, hiding in a garbage can, tripping over a root. Clumsy Death. Once he thought Death tapped him on the shoulder, but it must have ducked when he turned around to see who it was. "The night can play strange tricks on a man," the woman had said. Sure enough, when he awoke, the next morning, there was a "Kick Me" sign pinned to his back.


... but still, you must use proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling.


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08 Mar 2013, 8:53 am

Grammar rules can be broken when writing fiction, it can add character to the writing.



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08 Mar 2013, 9:26 am

When I look back at my writing of 30 years ago, it amazes me that I graduated from high school and college. I was very bad at expressing ideas clearly and my grammar swung between pretentious and incompetent. I have no natural talent for writing, but with a great deal of work, I have learned to write well enough to express my thoughts.

I suppose there are some Aspies who might have a natural skill at writing. I certainly was not one of those. My guess is that it is relatively uncommon for people on the spectrum to be good at writing.

The writing that appeals to me most is clear, concise and expressive. I have a hard time understanding some styles of poetic writing that contain complex imagery that must be interpreted "on the fly." The writing I like best does not call attention to its own cleverness. It flows effortlessly, leading me through a story or an idea so effectively that I hardly notice I am reading at all. This is what I strive for (although I know I could work a lot harder at being concise!)


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08 Mar 2013, 9:47 am

i can write "good"
here is the proof

good.



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08 Mar 2013, 11:02 am

When I write poetry, it is a visual tapestry that weaves upon itself intricate designs throughout the words written. I see threads between the words, ideas, dynamics, and sounds. To me a good poem is one that has an exceedingly complex, beautiful design where I can follow the threads over and through the body of the text. I prefer near-rhymes versus overt rhymes for the simple reason that much content is often compromised in order to use words that rhyme. Effective rhyming that doesn't sound contrived and detract from the content of a poem is exceedingly difficult to accomplish. For this reason I prefer shorter poems, as so much can be condensed into so little. That, to me, is effective writing.



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08 Mar 2013, 3:45 pm

I was shocked to find that this thread was NOT a put on.

Yes we aspies 'does write good'. Just like we aspies are not 'cocksxxxing motherxxxxers who use foul language!"

You could be the best storyteller on earth, but it doesnt mean anything if your grammar is THAT bad!



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08 Mar 2013, 4:19 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
I was shocked to find that this thread was NOT a put on.

Yes we aspies 'does write good'. Just like we aspies are not 'cocksxxxing motherxxxxers who use foul language!"

You could be the best storyteller on earth, but it doesnt mean anything if your grammar is THAT bad!


My impression is that the subject line was written with ironically bad grammar and was done for humor value. Granted there are some grammatical mistakes in the body of the the original post and without seeing the OP's general creative writing it's hard to assess his skills, but I believe the exceptionally poor grammar of the subject line is intentional.

I agree that the skillful use of grammar is critical to effective communication. My feeling is that, unless there is a pressing reason to do so, one should try not to misuse grammar. Good grammar is a baseline of communication. It's a structured way of communicating information that, if you ignore, can destroy the meaning of a sentence and leave the reader confused and frustrated. If you have poor control of grammar you risk being unable to communicate regardless of the quality of your ideas.

In this particular case, the misuse of grammar seems to have been done to communicate a somewhat self effacing tone to balance the self congratulatory nature of the post. If this is what the OP intended, then in some ways the intentional misuse of grammar was effective use of grammar insofar as it communicated an emotional tone that might not have been as easily communicated through strictly correct grammar.


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