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09 Dec 2007, 3:02 pm

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I really enjoy Hole (Courtney Love), Fiona Apple, Tori Amos, Bjork.

I go to a good place when i listen to these..



I definitely agree on the last three - they have their own style, swagger, etc. and it is real introspective stuff that they put out there.



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09 Dec 2007, 3:06 pm

You don't really like Courtney? She is rather sort of a star-f*cker in a way, isn't she?



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09 Dec 2007, 3:13 pm

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You don't really like Courtney? She is rather sort of a star-f*cker in a way, isn't she?


She may have had her degree of introspect in her tracks, that much is true, but I'm really undecided on her in general. I think probably because I've still heard too many things that were contradictory about her husbands 'suicide'.



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09 Dec 2007, 9:56 pm

Have you ever listened to "Live Through This"? It is her best album by far, and if you listen to it five times in a row, you will be assured to fall in love with it.. Though i must say some of the tracks seem like a confession to the 'homicide'. This was released only four days after he killed himself too. There is massive introspection in the lyrics. How she doesn't understand life, or enjoy mother-hood, and a lot of dying. If you get a chance, listen to it to compare it to Kurt's writing. Rumor says she really can't write her own music.. I could go on and on; she is one of my obsessions!



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09 Dec 2007, 10:14 pm

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What about Ani Difranco? She's hardly Judy Garland, but really, can someone pull off a "Judy Garland" in these days and times? Ani seems to fit alot of the criteria you're looking for. Give her a shot if you haven't heard of her yet.


Yeah, I've taken a listen to her stuff - interesting, I'd have to check it out a bit more.



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09 Dec 2007, 10:54 pm

Something else though, I know its more trip-hop than rock, Martina Topley-Bird has a seriously sick voice; not much like I've heard out of anyone else, though I think I'm still a bit more partial to her work with Tricky.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu8LpalUelY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0i44tRDKDA[/youtube]



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13 Dec 2007, 9:36 pm

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I was never one who was interested in female vocalists. All of my favorite singers are male.

Yeah me too. I always feel sort of sexist when I think about it.

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I think its probably the fact that they've learned so well to sing on key that they've forgotten a lot about dynamics and the specific ways and times to where deliberatly going off-key (but in a way that sounds methodical and planned) can really intensify the emotion of what a singer is putting out. I think that's what too much polish tends to wash out though - the emotion, the band can try to compensate it but in the end when the singer's style doesn't have enough swagger or enough layers to it you have an end result of a luke warm sound, couple that with bubble-gum lyrics and you've flat out got nothing suitable for ages 16 and up.


I think that's exactly it.

And I checked out a lot everyone's suggestions and I liked a lot of them, it's not the sort of music I thought I'd like and I do like it, which is always cool. I especially liked Bic Runga, Fiona Apple, and Martina Topley. I'm gonna download their music tonight or tomorrow or this weekend.



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13 Dec 2007, 10:04 pm

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And I checked out a lot everyone's suggestions and I liked a lot of them, it's not the sort of music I thought I'd like and I do like it, which is always cool. I especially liked Bic Runga, Fiona Apple, and Martina Topley. I'm gonna download their music tonight or tomorrow or this weekend.


Nice ;).

Just with Martina though, do remember to check out Tricky, particularly the Maxinquay and Pre-Milennium Tension; she tags in with him on almost everything (though I tend to just like the first few tracks on Maxinquay aside from Aftermath, Pre-Millenium is great all the way through and I think her voice is a bit more honed on that).



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17 Dec 2007, 1:32 pm

Why single out females in that genre? Heavy melodic has a lot of production, that is the style that is in fashion. What ever floats your boat, it isn't any less valid. I fully subscribe to the sell out philosophy so i don't really care for cultural snobbery.

How about try something something different?

Fairytale in the Supermarket - The Raincoats

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e55gTWfE8IY&feature=related[/youtube]

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17 Dec 2007, 2:01 pm

One of the reasons I rarely see live shows is that it really bothers me when the singer doesn't sing the way I expect it from the recording.

I love Shirley Manson from Garbage.



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17 Dec 2007, 3:19 pm

I'm very picky about vocalists too, male and female. And I cannot STAND Flyleaf! Bah.

PJ Harvey has a great voice.. And Johnette Napolitano from Concrete Blonde:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=kO6qrtSTkew[/youtube]

And also Emilie Autumn (though her songs aren't "rock" per se) - she has an amazing versatile voice
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=iC25M_lXrPs[/youtube]


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17 Dec 2007, 5:46 pm

BTW, here's something just funny for anyone who doesn't remember or for who this was before their time. The Swedish band Drain STH, actually started out being a bit of an Alice In Chains knock-off band; and the funny thing is they got it WAY better than Godsmack will ever hope to (then again I don't think they're trying...well...aside from their name, the way the singer tries to sing, gee...don't know...they've got a drummer though at least). I really don't know about this video, not all there but still - she can actually get that Layne Staley swagger on in the vocals, its nuts.

Anyway: Drain STH - I Don't Mind

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIVBdW1LHKM[/youtube]



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17 Dec 2007, 6:07 pm

Oh yeah, and another interesting late 90's epitaph - Kelli Dayton and company.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq1ja7ISBuc[/youtube]



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18 Dec 2007, 3:08 am

Since a few folks are posting vids, I'll post a few myself.


Oh Laura Nyro...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjdowef1oKE[/youtube]

I really like Mirah's voice.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUi4hAs70g[/youtube]

Nina Nastasia blows me away.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0mXOaAfFuw[/youtube]

There's always Ani Difranco.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrDdkQswLrs[/youtube]

Lookin' for a growler?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfLnDUPmP4s[/youtube]

Oh and the Queen of Rockabilly herself.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzJ3hiqsi0U[/youtube]

Enjoy!



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18 Dec 2007, 5:38 pm

Oftentimes, yes. I can't stand to see live videos of Evanescence because Amy Lee's singing is so disappointing. XD

That said I still love Evanescence's albums (hell, The Open Door is probably my second most favorite album ever), even there is that frankenstein singing. Flyleaf though? Ew.



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19 Dec 2007, 5:46 pm

Evanescence is boring and her voice is boring too. Evanescence...when I think of that name I think of those scented plug ins. What would Evanescence smell like? Nothing. You buy their scent, open it up, take a big whiff to find it smells like nothing. What a waste of money.

I like for rock females:

Kat Bjelland-

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt7FZYnSpOY[/youtube]

and The Great Kat-

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-j1ZaSndh8[/youtube]



It's hard for me to say that I like female rock singers as of who is out there now.