Do Aspies see how fake Lady Gaga is?

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05 Apr 2011, 3:23 am

I like what skafather said and I love what Bill Hicks screamed.



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05 Apr 2011, 3:43 am

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I'm an Aspie and I like Lady Gaga's music. I don't like her as a person, though.

Same here.

Same here as well but I despise most singers as role-models


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05 Apr 2011, 10:25 am

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I meant that having knowledge of music theory does not make you a musician. You need to know how to apply that knowledge in an artistic way to be a true musician.


I'm not sure I get what you mean by "apply that knowledge in an artistic way".


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05 Apr 2011, 11:01 am

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I'm not gonna lie when I say I loved Lady Gaga's music but I HATE I mean really hate how mainstream she has become (and it's mostly for her wardrobe than her songs). I was able to appreciate her music for many a few months before that Glee episode aired and it kinda turned me off. I was a fan of techno/house/trance music because of how un-mainstream it was but Lady Gaga is pretty much wrecking it getting more fame for what she wears than her actual music. I dunno if I can listen to her music anymore. Probably her less popular songs I can still listen to.

I know it's weird but that is how I am.


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05 Apr 2011, 1:21 pm

:lmao: asp-z.



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05 Apr 2011, 1:50 pm

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:lmao: asp-z.


Laughing is far too mainstream, hipsters just say "That's funny" ;)



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05 Apr 2011, 2:00 pm

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emlion wrote:
:lmao: asp-z.


Laughing is far too mainstream, hipsters just say "That's funny" ;)


Hipsters are too mainstream 8)


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05 Apr 2011, 2:02 pm

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emlion wrote:
:lmao: asp-z.


Laughing is far too mainstream, hipsters just say "That's funny" ;)


Hipsters are too mainstream 8)


Now that's a mindf**k 8O



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05 Apr 2011, 2:06 pm

skafather84 wrote:
I'm not sure I get what you mean by "apply that knowledge in an artistic way".
There is a difference between playing like a robot and playing like a human. You can take your basic modulation, and play the new section and play it with the exact same disposition as the original key. You might as well listen to a MIDI interpretation. If you're a true musician, you'd recognize the modulation as an entrance into a totally different emotional state or landscape. This is what I mean by an artistic application of theoretical knowledge. There are plenty of other examples I could think of that wouldn't fit in one post.


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05 Apr 2011, 2:40 pm

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emlion wrote:
:lmao: asp-z.


Laughing is far too mainstream, hipsters just say "That's funny" ;)


Hipsters are too mainstream 8)


Now that's a mindf**k 8O


:lmao: :D


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05 Apr 2011, 7:09 pm

She's interesting. Writes catchy stuff. Has some cool videos.

That's about it.

And, um, AHEM, as someone people would likely call a hipster,
I spit on the idea that somebody a buncha people like is CONTROLLING them somehow.
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05 Apr 2011, 8:19 pm

I'm a big Gaga fan - that is a fan of her as an artist and as a brand.

Her music is a good example of pop - she has great musical talent, a lot of her songs are rubbish but there are enough there that are such great examples of pop that they do very well, and they do so because they're good not just because of her die-hard fans. I like her because she is fake, she has used previous artists such as Madonna and Michael Jackson as a template to build herself upon, she's a pop icon and a living breathing statement on celebrity culture, pop culture, music culture and fashion.

She's smart because everything she does is fake so her image isn't her as a person but as a statement - you'll rarely see images or hear stories about her that she doesn't want you to know about, her use of the media is staggering and it does mimic Jacksons micky-take of the media by being purposefully eccentric and outrageous to make her a less-than-real character thus cementing her in the media and in the history books...and it's that character you see, never her...she is no longer a person, which is her art. She went from being a performer in New York, arts school, song writer - which in itself is impressive, but to achieve all she has is amazing.

She blatantly advertises anything and everything, yet still manages to maintain integrity by making this part of her branding and she does this impeccably, most other artists bring out scents or clothing lines, where as Gaga has managed to get herself into everything. She uses her following of little monsters to promote positive messages - for example don't ask don't tell, which I'm guessing is a major thing to go up against in the US, she did so in an annoying way but she still does more with her fame than most, and has a major cultural influence.

Lots of things about her annoy me to no end - she doesn't need to go as far as wearing a meat dress, that was a ridiculous move that she really didn't need to do at the peek of her career, the egg thing to me was like when stars start to wear those massive sunglasses once fame goes to her head...but hell it shows some serious commitment to her art to stay in that thing for so long!

So....I'm the only one who suspects she may be an aspie then?
No, not just for the eccentric behaviour.


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05 Apr 2011, 9:38 pm

I think she is a good pop musician, and I listen to her sometimes when I get bored of what I usually listen to (which is prog rock and metal). I also admire that she seems more invested in the cause of LGBT rights than just about any other celebrity at the moment; it doesn't look to me like it's strictly a PR thing, and I think she really cares (hence "Alejandro" and "Born This Way" and all of her speeches about LGBT issues).



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05 Apr 2011, 10:54 pm

She is not a role-model to emulate I would like to see that slu*ty persona equate to greatness and prominence in our society outside of certain artistic circles and creative industries because it doesn't do anything but alienate people. Fact of the matter it makes you undignified and even though Lady Gaga is in the correct career field if she was to be this indiscreet, the general consensus doesn't really respect her.

They consider her a rehash of Madonna who like I said before is herself a rehash of underground theater from the 1960's along of the showmanship of Glam Rockers only taking it to a much more explicit level. Gaga doesn't do much to expand on it. Honestly she is popular because most brash youth look at her superficially thinking she represents something of merit when a thorough background check will showcase that she was a spoiled heiress who got lucky by building up a persona in the burlesque scene in New York attempting things that Queen, David Bowie, and even Madonna had already accomplished. We have seen through Twilight, Family Guy, and this among things that epitomize the argument that the most popular things are indeed overrated.

Honestly I'm surprised aspies give her respect because I considered and still do that we are more perceptive about certain things. Including someone who obviously doesn't epitomize anything laudable. I thought this society would have more common sense not to appreciate fetish loving, meat wearing, shallow, conceited pop star.



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05 Apr 2011, 11:10 pm

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I also admire that she seems more invested in the cause of LGBT rights than just about any other celebrity at the moment; it doesn't look to me like it's strictly a PR thing, and I think she really cares (hence "Alejandro" and "Born This Way" and all of her speeches about LGBT issues).

It's because she has a penis :ncool:

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Honestly I'm surprised aspies give her respect because I considered and still do that we are more perceptive about certain things. Including someone who obviously doesn't epitomize anything laudable. I thought this society would have more common sense not to appreciate fetish loving, meat wearing, shallow, conceited pop star.

I suspect it's because of the LGBT thing, some think she exhibits some Aspie characteristics, she dares to be different, plus some of us are really into pop music As I've said before; I like her music but I do NOT think she is a wholesome person who should be imitated but I think most celeb are horrible role-models


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05 Apr 2011, 11:56 pm

I sincerely doubt that anyone who is a pure-madonna imitation would be an Aspie, usually Aspies take the initiative with their sense of ingenuity to create new things, she hasn't done anything. Her eccentric characteristics are not daring to be different, Madonna was just as daring. Sure we should be different/unique that would be beneficial if society has unique ideas there can be more ideas that would be bound to move society forward.

She is not moving society forward there were in-roads to get away from this superficial glam scene during the nineties, shes just resurrecting what was popularized in the eighties by Madonna and the flamboyant, moody themes of that era. Seeing how many adolescents are romanticizing with the eighties her popularity might be derived from the fact that she is reminiscent of that era. By the way people with Aspergers are unique but pop-music isn't so I see this as a contradiction. :?