So who like rap music?

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I like MC Solaar, Fantastische Vier, Fettes Brot and D, however I am indifferent at best about most English rap... it just doesn't sound well... I always prefer good lyrics to Gangsta and party raps, but that is rather rare...

Is there any particular english/UK rap are you not indifferent about?

All the Star Wars films are s**t and the only good thing about them was they gave Mark Hamill a reason to live and brought us Leia in a bikini.

I like underground, grime, old school, that type of stuff a bit. I like it when lyrics are focused on something that won't get a suspension in middle school if you talk about it to a teacher.

Agreed, the whole geek supremacy thing here gets more than a little abrasive at times.

yeah, I'll stop liking Star Wars in favor of rap "music" and forget how to spell and use proper grammar.

ahem...

"So who like rap music?"

Hmm is it me or does anyone else think if this had thread had been about some other type of 'music' other than rap i.e. say metal then people would have been far more diplomatic

rap is for hood rats and thugs who drop out of school in the fifth grade in favor of a life selling crack or meth to their homies.

Metal, rock, hard rock et al is thinking people's music.

I listen to all of those genres, and the most consistently cerebral lyricism ive ever heard is from underground hip-hop. Musically, hip-hop can incorporate metal, classical and any other genres.

A more accurate distinction would be to say, metal is rich white peoples music, whereas hip-hop is almost universal. (your own voice, a turntable and whatever equipment you can lay your hands on is cheaper than drums, guitars, amps etc etc ) But even those would be unfair generalizations.

Last year i saw megadeth in London - there was very little diversity in the crowd - almost exclusively white & middle-class, as expected (im not complaining - thats my own background). The next day i saw KRS-One, (my first hip-hop show) and the atmosphere was completely different. Looking around, you could see all races of people, seemingly from very different backgrounds. It was much more representative of the local population as a whole. It just felt a lot more comfortable - there was a sense of understated unity that felt deeper, more natural and real - more similar to the rave scene.

That's all? Just rock and metal?

in a nutshell.

anything but rap.

any whiny country.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQRsIxVA4p0[/youtube]

Here's a piece of an era I think you missed...

what about rap/metal crossover?

Oh yeah, because no-one in punk, rock or metal has ever been on drugs or f****d their life up or both, except for:
John Lennon
Brian Wilson
Pete Doherty (just look at any tabloid)
Motley Crue (their guitarist can barely paly gutiar any more)
Led Zeppelin
Bob Dylan
Syd Barrett (who due to drug related matters went mad and never returned)
Layne Stanley (deceased, I believe relating to drugs)
The Mars Volta
Scott Raynor (kicked out of his band for his alcoholism)
David Bowie (went broke in the 1970s)
Lou Reed
Johnny Cash (almost threw it all away in the sixties)
Nick Cave (was on heroin for decades)
Elvis Presley
Alice Cooper
Big Sick Ugly Jim Martin (fired from Faith No More for alcoholism)
Kurt Cobain (died during a descent into heroin addiction)
Marvin Gaye (cocaine, I think - had a hand in his eventual death at his father's hands)
Every last damn person in Guns 'n' Roses except Axl (Steven Adler I think his name was - their first drummer, fired for cocaine and alcohol addiction and has barely been seen since)
Most of the 30 or so people who joined Hawkwind at one time or another
Dave Navarro
John Frusciante (left Chili peppers for five years)
Chester Bennington
The MC5 (band dissolved and then I think one of them died due to drugs)
Trent Reznor

I could go on.

Your post proves to me that you know absolutely nothing about rap music. You only know the mainstream gangsta BS which people listen to like 50 Cent and all of that crap which people naturally assume is representative of all rap. When let's take a look at the s**t that's on the radio that represents rock and metal - Alter Bridge? Staind? Give me a f*****g break.

Rap music, GOOD rap music, isn't just about blunts. It's about love, as almost any other music style will be; it's about social deprivation, teenage pregnancy, drug addiction (JUST LIKE IN METAL), and there are stories and character sketches, just like in other genres.

Get off your elitist high horse and look harder before you make idiotic, unfounded judgements. For a supposed thinking person, you could use a bit more of a brain in your head.

I love metal, rock, hard rock et al., but several of those bands were and admit to being drug addicts. Especially metal. Look at Kyuss and the large amount of Stoner Metal bands. Or the Dandy Warhols. Drugs are an integral part of all music.

The fact is that some - not all - rap is not very good.

I have to admit, I'm not a huge fan of rap music (I've been brought up almost exclusively around rock music and rock-based subcultures, and so it was almost inevitable for me to end up being a rock fan), but there are some songs I like, such as Puff Daddy's "Victory", which IMO has one of the best music videos ever created. Also, these days I've really started to like Freestyle Fellowship. I heard one of their songs in a video online, and just fell in love with it! ^-^ I also quite like Run DMC and other old school rap artists, although I really don't like newer rap music that much.