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But it must be an unpopular opinion since it seems to occur a lot in mainstream/popular music.
Modern pop vocals are the actual worst, I don't know how anybody stands it, let alone how it's so popular.
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What counts as 'pop/mainstream' vocals?
For men I consider it that whiny, nasally, heavily autotuned tenor voice that stabs your ears like icepicks.
Or the calmer, country/folkish sounding one.
Or (c)Rappers aka the awful sounding mainsream rappers who scream, whine or simply talk without even making an attempt to rap properly. E.g. Fetty Wap, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown, Drake and his drunken slurry drawl, etc.
That or just plain 'Party Rocker' type trash ironically pioneered by LMFAO themselves.
It seems modern pop has no room anymore for bass or baritone pitched men.
I cringe everytime I listen to a male pop singer and it's always a high pitched sounding guy.
The men have a homogonous sound, in both voice and musical composition.
Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, JB, etc. are the whiny tenors with complete generic trash.
Ed Sheeran, Jamie Lawson, Passenger, James Bay, The Lumineers, etc. have the folk sound going on. They're actually pretty good at times, and this category varies from boring/not so good to actually quite beautiful.
This isn't to say all pop is bad.
The women also do sound generic. Almost all female singers sound the same to me nowadays except for the rare exceptions like Lorde.
Otherwise it seems almost every black female singer sounds like Rihanna.
Two girl groups, Fifth Harmony and Little Mix are difficult to tell apart.
- Anyway...the CHAINSMOKERS SUCK.
Yes, those are the guys the made Selfie, but at a rapid rate they keep releasing cheesy pop hits like Roses and Closer.
Many seem to think Selfie was bad but now they've 'evolved'.
Nope.
Closer is a rubbish song.
Cheesy, simplistic lyrics with the most awkward chance at throwing in a cultural reference (Blink 182) I've ever seen.
That obnoxious kazoo sound as the chorus. Ugh.
- One Direction aren't the worst boy band of all time.
I have a challenger to the title: the lesser known and now broken up Allstar Weekend!
Who the heck even is that rapper? I'm not sure if he's even in the band yet there's no "feat. X" in the title.
Geez.
At least One Direction have one slightly okay song (Midnight Memories) these 'Allstar' guys just don't.
I think Kanye West is NOT a musical genius and all the duets with McCartney in the world can't change my opinion. Not to mention he's also egotistical and pompous. He's finally getting some help for his mental health issues but it won't change my opinion on his music. (Believe it or not, people have been called racist for expressing this view- well talentlessness knows no colour )
Some of the 1970s music from what would now be considered "boybands" (Bay City Rollers, Jackson Five, Sweet Sensation) was very good. The Rollers' last three albums are very introspective and polished but obviously didn't translate to sales.
Despite committing unforgivable and disgusting acts, Gary Glitter had some good singles.
The quality of songwriting was much higher in the 70s than it was today, explaining the last two.
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This idea was very popular in the 70's but is unpopular now.
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For men I consider it that whiny, nasally, heavily autotuned tenor voice that stabs your ears like icepicks.
Or the calmer, country/folkish sounding one.
Or (c)Rappers aka the awful sounding mainsream rappers who scream, whine or simply talk without even making an attempt to rap properly. E.g. Fetty Wap, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown, Drake and his drunken slurry drawl, etc.
That or just plain 'Party Rocker' type trash ironically pioneered by LMFAO themselves.
It seems modern pop has no room anymore for bass or baritone pitched men.
I cringe everytime I listen to a male pop singer and it's always a high pitched sounding guy.
The men have a homogonous sound, in both voice and musical composition.
Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, JB, etc. are the whiny tenors with complete generic trash.
Ed Sheeran, Jamie Lawson, Passenger, James Bay, The Lumineers, etc. have the folk sound going on. They're actually pretty good at times, and this category varies from boring/not so good to actually quite beautiful.
This isn't to say all pop is bad.
The women also do sound generic. Almost all female singers sound the same to me nowadays except for the rare exceptions like Lorde.
Otherwise it seems almost every black female singer sounds like Rihanna.
Two girl groups, Fifth Harmony and Little Mix are difficult to tell apart.
- Anyway...the CHAINSMOKERS SUCK.
Yes, those are the guys the made Selfie, but at a rapid rate they keep releasing cheesy pop hits like Roses and Closer.
Many seem to think Selfie was bad but now they've 'evolved'.
Nope.
Closer is a rubbish song.
Cheesy, simplistic lyrics with the most awkward chance at throwing in a cultural reference (Blink 182) I've ever seen.
That obnoxious kazoo sound as the chorus. Ugh.
- One Direction aren't the worst boy band of all time.
I have a challenger to the title: the lesser known and now broken up Allstar Weekend!
Who the heck even is that rapper? I'm not sure if he's even in the band yet there's no "feat. X" in the title.
Geez.
At least One Direction have one slightly okay song (Midnight Memories) these 'Allstar' guys just don't.
I strongly agree with everything you wrote, everyone sounds the same nowadays, if I were to listen to all their songs for the first time and not be told who is the vocalist I'd assume it would the same person. Corporatism is real strong in today's pop music so artist are often discourage from sounding too different.
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As long as you don't mean the (infamous) Nine Inch Nails song, we're good.

Although it does annoy me how people take "Closer" out of context all because of the "I wanna f**k you like an animal" line in its chorus. It's not a mere dumb lust song, it's about how the main character of The Downward Spiral uses sex as an escape, and how he feels he needs it in order not to feel worthless or empty inside. It's about self-pity, escapism , and self-fulfillment. It's simple, but deep. It's not "I want sex" but "I want sex because I am a tortured individual who needs an escape and wants to feel something".
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The Beatles were a singles band, The Rolling Stones were an album band.
What I mean by this is, every Beatles album is uneven. But every one of them has some really amazing songs, even if they're mixed in with weak ones. The Stones, on the other hand, obviously have some fantastic classic songs, but I would say they have far fewer than The Beatles. That said, The Rolling Stones have way more consistent albums, where you don't want to miss a single track. I would also say Stones albums follow themes more successfully, making the songs stronger when heard together with the other songs on the album/of the theme. If I had to pick out favorite songs from each band, I'd probably pick out way more Beatles songs than Stones ones. But if I have to listen to an album straight through, I'd pick the Stones over the Beatles in a heartbeat. For one thing, the Beatles never did an album I enjoy nearly as much as Let It Bleed.
Both The Beatles and the Rolling Stones albums have far more interesting songs than the albums done by anyone today. Most bands have albums with one recognizable hit song, while the rest is boring. I have heard albums where literally (and I mean it literally) every song sounds the same. Yawn!
I know this is the unpopular opinions thread, so please don't take this as a criticism. You're definitely right about most mainstream bands, because that's basically how the pop market operates: an "artist" releases one or two hit songs, then fills the rest up with fluff. And the mainstream is awful, even mainstream rock music. But the thing is, the mainstream is less relevant now than it's ever been because of the internet. I literally have no idea what's going on in the mainstream, because I can just isolate myself from all that and only pay attention to the underground genres I'm interested in, since my underground music of preference is so easily accessible now. I think a lot of middle aged people who didn't grow up with the internet are still not used to this process, so they're probably more exposed to pop music than, say, I am, and if that's what you think today's music is like, of course you'll think music has gotten worse.
I'm not going to actually disagree with you on the Beatles and Stones because they're two of the greatest bands of all time, but I do disagree with the general notion that music has gotten any worse. For one thing, now making music is so accessible to everyone that there's endless crap out there, but there's also an endless supply of amazing stuff going on.
Since you're focusing on the Beatles and Stones, here's a psychedelic recommendation. This band's really young, but ridiculously musically gifted:
And for a raw rock sound:
Maybe listen to the second song first - it's stronger
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Oh my God yes, this x1000.
If you ever want to perform an interesting exercise, look up the popular stuff that was topping the charts back in the 60s and 70s. Most of it is horrendous stuff you've never heard of, and rightfully so.
Agreed. And likewise, they're hostile towards today's music because they focus on the crap while ignoring the good stuff.
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