Calling all Goths and Darksiders

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Kris94
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02 Jan 2015, 8:45 pm

I go to a monthly alternative music event and they play tradgoth and industrial music, EBM and dark trance music. I'm friends with many of the goths there, and relate to goths alot, but more than anything people call me a "hipster" due to my dress sense and the fact that I like indie and the more "-wave" sides of EDM.

The people there think I'm awesome. I suppose it's because I go for the music and don't try and dress like everybody else. It's a small event, but a very enjoyable one!

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03 Jan 2015, 6:09 pm

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The only problem I have is the whole stigma behind 'Emo' and what it means. People associate it with a really bad stereotype... but to me, it simply means embracing emotions, something upon which society seems hyper about 'getting rid of' by forcing males to be these 'emotionless rocks' and women to be 'tough', like emotions are bad. People associate emotions with depression, sadness and angsty... but people forget that emotions include love, happiness, peace, tranquil etc. And often, Emo and Goth sort of 'combined' a lot. I mean, the dark colours, the morbid hearts, the skulls, the darker music... it's like we're just long distance cousins, really. I don't honestly understand why we fight so much. Just be who you want to be and don't let anyone try to tell you otherwise. As an Aspie who is more on the weird side of life, I accept anyone be it in scene, emo, goth, tattoos, fetish, or anything else. You treat me with respect, I treat you back the same way.

Well in my experience most people who took on the typical style associated with emo...where the popular kids, the same ones that made fun of me for wearing black or trying to be 'goth' when I was more just being me, before it was cool to wear darker colors or whatever...also seemed to make a joke out of serious mental health related issues like severe depression, feeling suicidal and self harm like trying to romanticize it if that makes sense. So admittedly I was turned off by it...due to that, but it was 9 years ago...since then I've met people younger than myself who seem to identify as emo who aren't fake like that. As for scene I just never got that one I figured there are various music scenes but they vary quite a lot so I just never understood that particular one.

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03 Jan 2015, 6:25 pm

Kris94 wrote:

I've been deemed a metal hipster by one of my friends...I am quite obsessed with metal and anyone who knows me is beyond well aware of that, but I also do wear a lot of vintage clothes(or vintage style) like a lot of psychedelic indie kind of bands/music as well and of course there's the obsession with vinyl records which seem to be associated with that.

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03 Jan 2015, 6:35 pm

Trip hop just recently got me into darkwave, and I've enjoyed metal since sixth grade or so. Since HS a lot of my friends have been ravers so I'm pretty familiar with the subculture although I don't usually dress that way. Also my music tastes range far outside the macabre norms for these demographics and I consider myself a (cautious) optimist. My dad is the only person ever to call me a goth (he's a neo-conservative :evil: ) so while I possess tacit respect for all such lifestyles, I think I fit in here strictly because I agree with one of the original posts here - intellectuals may be even more obsessed with death. It definitely is NOT something I believe should be feared, under any condition.

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20 Jan 2015, 10:57 pm

Hey. Just thought to mention I started a blog last night for Aspergers people. If you have experiences, advice or resources to share, feel free to support the blog and submit content to it. Every bit of support it gets helps other young people out there.

A blog for young people with Aspergers. Aimed towards people into: BDSM, Goth, Punk, Paganism. Also dedicated to LBGT Aspies.

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21 Jan 2015, 12:41 am

I'm not a dark Goth per se, I'm more of a Cyber Goth or, as we are more affectionately called, 'Rivetheads'.

I like Industrial EBM...anything from Aesthetic Perfection to Zeromancer with some darker elements like Cruxshadows, Wumpscut etc.

It all came about when I got bored of listening to Thrash Metal and Screamo and looked for something more melodious, but with the same mind-numbing basslines (cue Combichrist and Centhron).

Then I became attuned to the lyrics, melody and ultimate dance-ability...with a lot of content more 'darker' than even Goth music. I never did like Evanescence etc...but I still never forgot my penchant for all things 'industrial' - I wanted to take the 'next step' after listening to Rammstein, Static-X, Ministry, Fear Factory etc.

Stuff like this (it's pretty dark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAoQz-L7JmI

So yeah, even though I don't wear black and I don't show it, I am a Goth and a dark person and my music shows it.

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22 Jan 2015, 3:30 pm

Huge fan of post-punk/goth/industrial here!

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25 Feb 2015, 6:05 pm

LadyDaemontus wrote:

THIS. This all the way! I never in my life understood the whole worldwide (or stateside) aversion to emotion, as it is the real you. It's human feelings. It's not some damn disease. It's natural, as long as you have control over it.

LadyDaemontus wrote:

You have eyes that whether or not people want to, people will get sucked into like a vortex. They're beautiful, as are you. :-)

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25 Feb 2015, 9:31 pm

SoMissunderstood wrote:

I'm not a dark Goth per se, I'm more of a Cyber Goth or, as we are more affectionately called, 'Rivetheads'.

I agree Rammstein is fun, Static X I used to like but I saw them @ Ozzfest and they turned out to be all mixdown.

Anyways I consider myself a diehard cyberpunk. I'm a hacking quasi-raver with Norse & German blood so my tastes range from more or less all forms of electronica to hiphop to thrash punk/metal & death metal.

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25 Feb 2015, 9:33 pm

Was goth before emo ever came into the equation, still goth-ish at 46, even though I guess I'm supposed to have grown out of it all by now.

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25 Feb 2015, 10:44 pm

MonstressTiamat wrote:

Just wondering if anyone considers themself a Goth or is into Dark Alturnative culture/music?
My dark preoccupations began as a child. I intended to dye my fair hair black as soon as I was old enough and wear velvet; in the 70's before there was a Goth scene. I would parade around in my magician cape and hat which I had made myself or run around wearing my vampire teeth. I loved monsters and considered humans bad. I was fascinated as a child by military bands, machine noises and Kraftwerk which was to lead to an interest in Industrial music as an adult. I am in my 30's and I am still heavily into the Gothic subculture(although I still find being part of a subculture socially challenging). I have no intentions of growing up.

My psychologist told me that a lot of her Aspie clients wear mainly black. Secondly several Goths in my local scene have told me they have Aspergers Syndrome and thought I had it too. Do you think 'Gothickness" could be genetic and/or Aspie trait?

Grrrr!
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I've always been cynical and nihilistic, which is why I would never consider myself a member of something as lame as a subculture, especially not one as pathetically infantile as goths.

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25 Feb 2015, 11:40 pm

Being a cynical nihilist needn't make you a biter. Your username by definition lumps you into a subculture anyway. Go find a thread you can enjoy and let us enjoy this one sans small minded personal attacks.

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26 Feb 2015, 9:40 pm

Aspie isn't a culture, it's a medical diagnosis. Friends don't let friends become goth.

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26 Feb 2015, 11:45 pm

AspE wrote:

I've always been cynical and nihilistic, which is why I would never consider myself a member of something as lame as a subculture, especially not one as pathetically infantile as goths.

In which ways are subcultures lame? and what is so pathetically infantile about goths...I've never met one that bothered me.

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26 Feb 2015, 11:46 pm

AspE wrote:

Aspie isn't a culture, it's a medical diagnosis. Friends don't let friends become goth.

Why?...it has good music rather cool style associated with it at least I happen to like darker sorts of fashion, I'd rather have goth friends than friends that only listen to the top 40 or gangster rap, at least their music is better. And no one suggested aspergers is a sub-culture...but people with it can certainly identify with sub-cultures.

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28 Feb 2015, 12:06 am

Lulz I like death metal & gangster rap. Ghostface Killah is just as 8r0074l as DAATH any day of the week.

Sue me everybody...
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