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27 Feb 2012, 9:04 am

I think the early nineties do for sure, I've seen some videos from 1990 or 1991 and honestly they look old in the same kind of way videos from the 70s do. And even some movies I grew up with like Blank Check (1994) look downright ancient compared to movies today.

On the other hand though, today still has a pop culture that is pretty '90s' in essence. The Simpsons and South Park, both of which were 1990s phenomena, are still huge and popular today even with today's kids. Also what's left of rock today is either in the grunge/post-grunge style and could easily be from 1995, or it's 'indie' which is barely even rock at all but rather a different kind of music more akin to new wave. And also even though it's no longer considered 'cool' I still see tons of people who are dressed in a 90s way, you know, baseball cap and jersey and all. Gangsta rap and the fashion and slang that goes along with it is also a huge commonality between today and the 90s even if the music and lingo has changed slightly over the years.

Things that were considered very new and '90s' too like coffee/Starbucks culture and tattoos/piercings have also only gotten bigger today. I was also gonna say that the excessive use of profanity began in the 90s and hasn't subsided, but I think in the 80s that was already well underway if not even by the 60s/70s. However it was only in the early 00s that it became saturated to the point that even the pop stars kids listen to have Parental Advisory albums.

Also, the late nineties, despite being 15 years ago or close to it, doesn't really seem very old. I could probably be transported to 1998 and not really feel like much at all was different compared to 2012, until I tried to use the Internet somewhere.



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27 Feb 2012, 9:17 am

TBH, when Blur got the Lifetime Achievement award or whatever it was, and someone mentioned they've been going for over 20 years, I was pretty shocked. I was 14 when I bought Parklife only four years late.


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27 Feb 2012, 9:30 am

I don't feel that the entertainments available are that different now. Movies are certainly glossier and more cartoonish because of the advancements in CG effects. I can remember when early-Nineties audiences were spellbound because filmmakers had inserted Clint Eastwood into footage of JFK's speeches for In the Line of Fire. And it was downright amazing that they'd made Gary Sinise's legs vanish in Forrest Gump. Better effects than those are used during opening credits now, and we yawn impatiently for the movie to begin.

One difference in movies that I mostly dislike is that they seem to be getting longer. I don't know if this is Hollywood trying to compensate for inflated ticket prices, but most of the wide release movies don't have enough story substance to fill over two hours of screen time. Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Avatar, Inglorious Basterds, etc. By the time the credits rolled on those, my brain and my ass were both numb.



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27 Feb 2012, 9:48 am

Ookla wrote:
Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Avatar, Inglorious Basterds, etc. By the time the credits rolled on those, my brain and my ass were both numb.


Not sure about Avatar but - yeah - IKWYM.

There is a limit as to how long the movies can be in the cinema, it's dictated by the number of slots available during the day and, therefore, the length of each slot. In order to fit into the slot a film needed to be hacked, with scenes being removed to shorten it. The DVD released afterwards contained this version of the film. It was followed soon after by a DVD contained "extended release", "director's cut", etc. which were all much longer; this was the unhacked film.

Why didn't the film companies just release that? It enabled the film companies to sting us for another wad of cash for what was the same film. :evil:


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27 Feb 2012, 1:31 pm

I started feeling old when the classic rock stations started playing Nirvana.



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27 Feb 2012, 2:49 pm

Eh, sorta kinda. I'm starting to feel like an old man actually. I've been looking back at the past and telling kids, "Back in my day, we didn't have none of that fancy Blue Rayz and High speeds internets." But no really, I was playing my Gameboy Color on the bus and this kid walks over to me and asks, "What's that?" Man, I felt like an old man. :(


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27 Feb 2012, 2:51 pm

Although I was only a young boy in the 90s, I do miss it, it had some great bands around at the time like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, U2, Muse, Radio head, blur, REM, The Cranberries, even rap and R&B songs were good.



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27 Feb 2012, 2:55 pm

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Although I was only a young boy in the 90s, I do miss it, it had some great bands around at the time like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, U2, Muse, Radio head, blur, REM, The Cranberries, even rap and R&B songs were good.
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27 Feb 2012, 3:02 pm

Ookla wrote:
One difference in movies that I mostly dislike is that they seem to be getting longer. I don't know if this is Hollywood trying to compensate for inflated ticket prices, but most of the wide release movies don't have enough story substance to fill over two hours of screen time.


I remember when we had VHS tapes and used to think they were excellent, I recall my brother thinking that Star wars in digitally remastered VHS was the best thing since sliced butter. Come to think of it, the 90s had better qualities of movies as well, Schindler's List, Fight Club, American beauty, The Matrix, Pulp Fiction, The Usual suspects, American History X and quite a few more to name. I recently watched the new Three Musketeers in 3D, it had excellent 3D yet it really lacked good dialogue, acting, character development, directing and innovation, maybe Hollywood are hoping the mainstream audience ignore those factors in favor of 3D effects.



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27 Feb 2012, 3:09 pm

Hah! No. I graduated from high school in 1978! Anything that came out after 1989 still seems new to me. :P


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27 Feb 2012, 3:10 pm

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I started feeling old when the classic rock stations started playing Nirvana.


**Laughter**

That is a major slap in the face to Classic Rock. Nirvana is one of the worst bands/musical groups in world history, IMO.


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27 Feb 2012, 3:12 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
Although I was only a young boy in the 90s, I do miss it, it had some great bands around at the time like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, U2, Muse, Radio head, blur, REM, The Cranberries, even rap and R&B songs were good.


Very true. 8)



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27 Feb 2012, 5:12 pm

I miss teh 90s. :cry:



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27 Feb 2012, 9:53 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
Come to think of it, the 90s had better qualities of movies as well, Schindler's List, Fight Club, American beauty, The Matrix, Pulp Fiction, The Usual suspects, American History X and quite a few more to name. I recently watched the new Three Musketeers in 3D, it had excellent 3D yet it really lacked good dialogue, acting, character development, directing and innovation, maybe Hollywood are hoping the mainstream audience ignore those factors in favor of 3D effects.


I agree. There are still quality films that manage to make it into multiplexes, usually because they're backed by someone with a lot of Hollywood clout: Inception (Christopher Nolan), District 9 (Peter Jackson), and Gran Torino (Clint Eastwood) are good examples. But wonderful surprises like those are rare.

If you want fresh and bold filmmaking, I advise you to explore Korean films from the 2000's. They're not all great, of course. But overall, Korean filmmakers are putting Hollwood to shame.



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27 Feb 2012, 11:58 pm

Mithos wrote:
Eh, sorta kinda. I'm starting to feel like an old man actually. I've been looking back at the past and telling kids, "Back in my day, we didn't have none of that fancy Blue Rayz and High speeds internets." But no really, I was playing my Gameboy Color on the bus and this kid walks over to me and asks, "What's that?" Man, I felt like an old man. :(


Indeed, I too have this exact "Back in the day" thing going on, too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8117619.stm

But, it can be summed up in this:
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28 Feb 2012, 1:37 am

Mithos wrote:
Eh, sorta kinda. I'm starting to feel like an old man actually. I've been looking back at the past and telling kids, "Back in my day, we didn't have none of that fancy Blue Rayz and High speeds internets." But no really, I was playing my Gameboy Color on the bus and this kid walks over to me and asks, "What's that?" Man, I felt like an old man. :(


"What is that clunky, blocky thing you have there? Does it have Wifi?" :cry: