Musicians who have (or may have?) Asperger's Syndrome.

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10 Oct 2009, 9:13 am

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I'm not so sure but Rob Swire frontman for the drum n bass band "Pendulum" seems AS-ish. I watched a live DVD and he had no direct interaction with the audience. Also he seemed entirely focused on his instruments rather than the audience. I watched an interview with him and another band member and he didn't talk much and gave off a sort of awkward body language. AS may be a bit far but he's anti-social at least.

And Jack White may be. The Lyrics to the song "Do" are AS-ish. I don't know about Meg White though.


I have noticed so to, thought the band itself is AWESOME, and the lyrics and formal speeches in some of the songs are genius, like the ones you hear in Slam and Blood Sugar, the video for Slam shows creativity and something your ordinary director wouldn't do, and when the formal speech begins; "Somewhere out there in the vast nothingness of space" shows some suspiciousness :wink:

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10 Oct 2009, 12:20 pm

Yeah, the Slam video has some high levels of WTF? Pure Genious. I think their videos for "Propane Nightmares" and "Granite" are best though.

(somewhere far away in space and time.)


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10 Oct 2009, 2:00 pm

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In Jazz: Thelonius Monk almost certainly was an aspie


I saw a documentary on him once. Dude does raise aspie alarms. So wonderfully idiosyncratic.

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I'll toss out a few names here, tell me what you guys think:

joey ramone
old dirty bastard
phil spector
greg sage(the wipers)
link wray
hasil adkins


Most of those would'nt surprise me, though, a few may have simply been schizotypal. But then again AS could be the neurology and schizotypal the personality that developed.



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11 Oct 2009, 7:06 pm

I'm pretty sure Tom Shear from Assemblage 23 doesn't have it but I know a lot of underground electronic artists who do. Not sure if they'd be comfortable with me "outing them" though.

I don't think Kurt Cobain had it. Maybe Thom Yorke from Radiohead though?

Gary Numan is a huge inspiration to me. The music industry is full of some extremely nasty people (especially the darker subcultures) and it's very easy to get mobbed and blacklisted for acting the wrong way, pissing off the wrong people, etc. I'm a small time artist who has already been harshly slandered in addition to having my identity stolen and music website hacked. These people stole money from my fans. The did it because they thought it was funny. The fact that Gary Numan managed to get to the point that he did is incredible. I wonder how much crap he had to take from other people for "not coming off right" and all that. The alternative music subcultures are generally very friendly and open minded but the people behind the scenes are nothing short of brutal.

Anybody here familiar with Klaus Nomi? He may have had it too.



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16 Oct 2009, 7:59 pm

Mc frontalot has asperger's syndrome he has a song called aspperger's.



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16 Oct 2009, 11:41 pm

Sinead O'Connor, I watched a more recent but still old Oprah interview with her. In the interview she admitted she had recently be.en Dxed with Bi Polar. I realise this is miles away from ASD in the DSM.......what ever number it is now. However she sure came across as ASD to me. Poor thing was in a very bad way what ever the DX.

Also was it Beethoven (I am not a music fiend and get all those dead guys confused LOL)was suppoed to have had many ASD symptoms. Interestingly when they, more recently, analysed a sample of his hair they found huge Lead levels.



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21 Oct 2009, 7:42 am

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My nominees as per the lyrical content:
John Lennon (Great candidate - songs "Imagine" and "Working Class Hero")
Ozzy Osbourne - a lot of lyrics stating a feeling of difference
David Bowie - Specifically, the song called "Conversation Piece" which should be the Aspie theme song if there ever was one

I also nominate Goo Goo Dolls and Keane due to lyrical content


No way Lennon or Bowie - they were people persons and knew how to work a crowd

Just because you know how to work a crowd doesn't mean you're not AS. I have AS and I have a lot of Public Speaking and Stand-Up Comedy experience



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30 Oct 2009, 5:27 am

The Bebop movement of late fourties jazz had two giants who were probably both aspies: Charlie Parker, and Thelonius Monk.

Monk especially.

In 1947 the piano improv genius was gigging at a club. Buddies told him that "theres a cat across the street on the piano who looks just lke you."

So Monk crossed the street to check it out. He told the fellow pianist "those cats are right, you do look like me..."

When Monk was reintroduced to the man in 1952 the first thing out of monk's mouth was ",,,but you're uglier than I am."

He completed a sentence that he had started five years earlier!



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30 Oct 2009, 5:35 am

This thread is about aspie artists- not aspie related songs.
Theres another current thread about songs in this forum.



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28 Jan 2010, 2:48 pm

themonkey wrote:
NO JOHN FRUSCIANTE HAS NOT ASPERGERS!!

HE IS BEEN DOING DRUGS FOR SO LONG THAT HIS BRAIN HAS BEEN DAMAGED: HE WAS VERY NORMAL BEFORE!! IM RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS BIG FAN SO I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

Sorry for big letters but i got like littlebit angry for comment that John has it.

And othet thoughts. I think 99% of people mentioned here has not asperger. I understand that people who has it WANT that some sucsessful people has it. It gives hope and proud. But im sorry a lot of peoplle mentioned here has not AS. That is a fact.

He was normal before? Huh?
He wouldn't leave his house as a kid and a teenager, he would just study music and was obsessed with it and with musicians... How normal is the quotation "We're too popular, I don't need this", and leaving your worldwide known band (in the middle of a tour, mind you) because you feel bad about being so famous? How normal is choosing to be a junkie, and being happy with it?

Nothing was ever "normal" about John. Even socially speaking, he was in complete shock that the rest of the band had ambitions of becoming world famous. He was sure they were like him, and just wanted to keep performing to small audiences. That's not NT understanding of society...



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28 Jan 2010, 8:28 pm

Someone who knew Dave Matthews personaly said he has AS. (it was either him or someone with a simaliar name)

Sid Barret from Pink Floyd
Gary Newman


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23 Feb 2010, 1:18 pm

1. Glenn Danzig. He is very anti-social. And he seems to be obsessed with Satan. When he was with the Misfits he was obsessed with horror movies. And if you've ever seen a live video with the Misfits. He just looks down and pretty much just stands there with his hair in his face...

2. Kurt Cobain. Need I say anything..... Either way though he is my favorite musician of all time.. :]

3. Jack Black. He is in Tenacious D. Obsessed with music. And always talk in some odd manner. I got the phrase "nay saying" from him. :]



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24 Feb 2010, 12:06 pm

So basically, we've just diagnosed every musician with Asperger's.

I really hate having to repeat myself, but just because somebody acts kind of "off" doesn't mean they have Asperger's. And just because you identify with someone doesn't necessarily mean that they have AS too. I identify with Sookie Stackhouse and River Tam, but neither of them are autistic.


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05 Mar 2010, 6:05 am

I haven't seen anyone suggesting Mike Oldfield as a possible Aspie.

Check out these quotes from his autobiography "Changeling" (ISBN 978-0-7535-1307-1)


"When was it that I knew I was different? From when I was very young, I was always watching, observing, taking it all in; but it was more than that, I knew there was more to life than I could grasp."
p. 10

"Unfortunately, I was no that good at getting on with kids of my age.
I did have a younger friend for a while but I didn't like him very much.
p. 13

"I remember how my mother would send me to parties or organise a party for me, for my birthday. I would be dressed up in a pair of shorts an an itchy shirt, then all these strangge children, boys and girls, would walk through the door. They were complete strangers to me, I didn't know who on earth they were. They would give me a present - I quite liked that part - but then I had to play with the strangers. I didn't know what to do whith them. It ended up that they played on their own, while I I sat twiddling my thumbs and shuffling my feet."

"I was quite happy in my own company, anyway."

"I didn't have a concept of fear."

p.14


"...I've had a whole lifetime of DIY phobia. I can put a model helicopter together, or insert a piece of circuitery into a Macintosh computer, with the tiniest screws and pieces; however, if it's anything to do with building work, I'm useless at it."
p. 16

"My first school was a Catholic convent school..."
"I vividly remember my first day: my God, what a shock that was...."
"That morning, my parents dressed me up in my school uniform, which felt horribly itchy..."
"All around me looked completely alien..."
p. 17

"I felt lost, like a fish out of water."
"It was from that moment, I started to realise I wasn't the same as everybody else.
I could see other children all joining in, quite happily playing games in little groups. The other children didn't approach me and ask me to play; I didn't want to approach them either, so I just skulked around, watching...
"I knew I was being left out but had no idea why. In one way I longed to be able to play, to run around with the other children, but I didn't know how to change the way things were. I just had this feeling there was something wrong with me...I didn't know what put them off. I was on my own, I didn't really understand anything about it, and I hated it."
p. 18

"I can remember learning how to read, having trouble with the word 'all'. I couldn't work out how you could have to 'l's, and you didn't say, 'al-l'."
p. 19

"There were some kids I got on with, but that was more on my terms. They were older kids, about eight or nine, and I suppose they didn't fit in, like me."
p. 20

"For some reason things weren't so bad with the older kids. They accepted me..."

"I was always an inquisitive child."
p. 21

"Unfortunately, I don't think I was really academic."
p. 30

"I put everything, every single resource in my brain, to understanding that guitar and achieving what I could with it. I must have looked completely obsessive, but for me it was a way of escape."
"...I certainly don't know what else I would have done if music had not come along."
p. 34

"A great, very happy, by-product of playing guitar was that suddenly I became popular. From being a lonely child who nobody wanted to talk to, as soon as I got out my guitar and started playing it people were, 'Wow, hello', and interested in me."
p. 35

"I wasn't really socialising, I didn't really talk that much: the people I was with were older and, an by this time I was using my guitar as a mean of communication anway. I was so immersed in my music, it really becoming an escape from the horrors of dayly life..."
p. 45


"I've always been a lonely, outcast, outsider kind of person, I'm not very sociable."
p. 120

"I think I was born as a sort of mutation, without the social gene that makes people or animals flock together."
p. 204

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05 Mar 2010, 1:52 pm

I think I saw that someone mentioned Neil Young. Regarding that I was watching CSNY: De Ja Vu, and Steven Stills said they let Neil be the leader because he's absolutely obsessed with his music and the antiwar movement and it's all he talks or thinks about day and night. Stills said Young is always writing long lists of ideas for songs and other things.



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05 Mar 2010, 3:25 pm

'Heart of Gold' by Neil Young strikes a deep and resonant chord with me. Sounds like an aspie anthem. I ain't saying it's proof or anything.

I suspect Bowie. Michael Stipe. David Byrne. And if Morrissey isn't an aspie, I'll eat my left testicle.

In jazz, yeah, someone mentioned Monk, seems likely, his music is way out. Also Sun Ra, his music is way beyond beyond, and his bio suggests it.

A bit off topic, but do any of you aspies especially appreciate music in time signatures other than 4? I remember hearing Dave Brubeck's time experiments on 'Time Out' at a young age and I just thought, this is my music!