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08 May 2015, 12:04 pm

do you feel like many people think you are amazing because of certain talents and skills you have and they get jealous wish, they had the talents like you too, think you are brilliant ect but when it comes down to it, the talents really aren't benefiting your life as much as it appears? I feel like I'm in this boat. People are amazed at my art skills but it's not really a type of art skill where I can make money. When it comes down to it, yes I can see how people admire them but when it compares to artist actually making money they are still better then me and I'm only good at art in certain ways not the type of ways and styles in which it can sell. In addition I feel like the poeple who are jealous of my talents and feel like i am blessed to be successful with them are actually in truth more better off them selfs because I feel like their talents such as being an electrician, being good at financing, teacher, ect in which they enjoy is keeping them in a stable job. Does anyone else feel this way?


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08 May 2015, 3:40 pm

Artists generally speaking aren't valued that much. I think for one thing its easy to pin people down by their profession, but artists cannot be categorised. We can be certain about doctors, but even lorry drivers have a certain value. A person's job may define them in many people's eyes, but that cannot apply to artists.



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09 May 2015, 2:26 pm

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22 May 2015, 11:22 pm

What do you mean though when you say overhyped false talents?

I consider myself an amateur musician for instance but get made-out by other's to be very talented and skilled.

It's hard to stay humble when too many people try to over-inflate your ego. Sometimes people with big ego's aren't that way because they chose to be but because they were over-prasied for their art/skill by other's.

I wouldn't say I'm 'untalented' or 'fake' or anything, but certainly people get a false idea of how skilled I am.

Compared to most I am just a beginner. So you could say I'm overhyped for a false talent. A false [idea of] [a level of] talent which I don't yet have.

Does anyone else think other's think you are more talented than you yourself believe you are?



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28 May 2015, 8:48 pm

I am iffy on a lot of "modern art". I can certain call out a variety of false talents in terms of music. Kanye West, Jay-Z, and Robin Thicke are a few.



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29 May 2015, 3:57 am

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29 May 2015, 4:32 am

Grebels wrote:
Artists generally speaking aren't valued that much. I think for one thing its easy to pin people down by their profession, but artists cannot be categorised. We can be certain about doctors, but even lorry drivers have a certain value. A person's job may define them in many people's eyes, but that cannot apply to artists.



This sums it up very well. In many ways, society regards artists in much the same way as it does people with autism - we don't really fit into any of their neat, preconceived stereotypes, we don't conform, we are weird. The artistic and the autistic worldview is remarkably similar, we think very differently from NTs and have an essential disconnect from mainstream society. Hence, as Grebels says, we aren't valued very much.



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29 May 2015, 9:51 am

Hyperborean wrote:
Grebels wrote:
Artists generally speaking aren't valued that much. I think for one thing its easy to pin people down by their profession, but artists cannot be categorised. We can be certain about doctors, but even lorry drivers have a certain value. A person's job may define them in many people's eyes, but that cannot apply to artists.



This sums it up very well. In many ways, society regards artists in much the same way as it does people with autism - we don't really fit into any of their neat, preconceived stereotypes, we don't conform, we are weird. The artistic and the autistic worldview is remarkably similar, we think very differently from NTs and have an essential disconnect from mainstream society. Hence, as Grebels says, we aren't valued very much.


Despite the claim that people with Asperger's lack imagination, I think we Aspies are greatly represented in the arts.


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29 May 2015, 11:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Hyperborean wrote:
Grebels wrote:
Artists generally speaking aren't valued that much. I think for one thing its easy to pin people down by their profession, but artists cannot be categorised. We can be certain about doctors, but even lorry drivers have a certain value. A person's job may define them in many people's eyes, but that cannot apply to artists.



This sums it up very well. In many ways, society regards artists in much the same way as it does people with autism - we don't really fit into any of their neat, preconceived stereotypes, we don't conform, we are weird. The artistic and the autistic worldview is remarkably similar, we think very differently from NTs and have an essential disconnect from mainstream society. Hence, as Grebels says, we aren't valued very much.


Despite the claim that people with Asperger's lack imagination, I think we Aspies are greatly represented in the arts.


You are absolutely right. Some of the world's most creative people are, and have always been, Aspies.



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29 May 2015, 7:47 pm

Hyperborean wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Hyperborean wrote:
Grebels wrote:
Artists generally speaking aren't valued that much. I think for one thing its easy to pin people down by their profession, but artists cannot be categorised. We can be certain about doctors, but even lorry drivers have a certain value. A person's job may define them in many people's eyes, but that cannot apply to artists.



This sums it up very well. In many ways, society regards artists in much the same way as it does people with autism - we don't really fit into any of their neat, preconceived stereotypes, we don't conform, we are weird. The artistic and the autistic worldview is remarkably similar, we think very differently from NTs and have an essential disconnect from mainstream society. Hence, as Grebels says, we aren't valued very much.


Despite the claim that people with Asperger's lack imagination, I think we Aspies are greatly represented in the arts.


You are absolutely right. Some of the world's most creative people are, and have always been, Aspies.


I wouldn't be the least surprised if the Upper Paleolithic artists who had painted on the cave walls were Aspies who were too clumsy to hunt, and too socially inept to lead.


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