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07 Dec 2008, 11:41 pm

As an aspiring guitar player, I realize image is very important. I've been on nearly very prescription drug for biopolar and autism created. I'd love to wear a shirt while preforming that was given out directly from Lilly or Phizer to promote anti-psychotic or mood disorder medications. Any suggestions on how to contact a corporation for this type of advertising? I have found a few numbers that I will call in the morning but non of them look very promising. Also, I have searched corporate websites for e-mail addresses and further information but still I have found nothing that really seems appropriate. The secretary at my doctor's office has pens that advertise seroquel. (You better believe I snatched one of those) I'd love some more but a t-shirt would be perfect for me and display a major part of my life. I'd even be willing to buy one.



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08 Dec 2008, 3:06 am

So are you trying to get paid to advertise, or are you just trying to snag some free gear from the companies? I know some companies will send free stuff if you tell them you're doing a school report about that company.

I don't understand your choice of product placement though. I think it would hurt your image. Rock fans in general aren't big on supporting mega-corporations. Don't get me wrong- it's a unique idea and if the drugs helped you, then great. But some people might take it as a sign of advocating prescription drug abuse.


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08 Dec 2008, 3:24 am

eBay. (especially eBay stores) Search for "drug shirt".

I would say doctors, pharmacists, etc. But MOST people wouldn't wear shirts for crazy pills, so why would they even make them?

You could make or custom order your own design but if you do video gigs then avoid trademark infringement. LITHIUM is probably a good choice because it's not only for bipolar manic depression but it's also an element. Generic names are probably Ok such as:
Haloperidol, (Chlor-)Promazine, Perphenazine, Risperadone = Antipsychotics



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08 Dec 2008, 3:17 pm

I realize it's controversial but part of the job of an artist or performer is to create controversy. I found this quote recently:

“A civilization in which there is not a continuous controversy about important issues is on the way to totalitarianism and death” (Robert Maynard)

Psychiatry is the most important issue for me. I should have clarified that I would not be advertising the company. That is just the angle I'd use to ask for handouts. I would not be advocating drug abuse only expressing a large part of my life. Some of the greatest suffering I have endured was from anti-psychotic medications. My only concern about people taking it the wrong way would be if it hurts the music but I believe that standing for something and offering a message or point of view will only help. Kids who take drugs will take drugs but trust me, once a kid tries some of the meds I've been on, they'll never try it again. Thanks for your suggestions, I'll try ebay.



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08 Dec 2008, 3:59 pm

I hate psychiatry, and would personally avoid music that supports it in any way. Don't be a tool for it.


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08 Dec 2008, 7:12 pm

That is the message or point of view it would be offering. I also hate psychiatry. It's witchcraft not science and uses labels and drugs instead of care and healing. Adhd is the single most dangerous idea created by man to date. Don't want to fight my war? Don't want to study my propaganda? Don't agree with me? Well, that's because you have adhd. You are sick and you need to be medicated. What happens when government gets involved? What happens when drug technology advances so far that a total mind control pill is easier to make than aspirin? What happens when the only people in the world who can think in accordance with their own interests and not those of a suppressor are in a doctor's office because they are "bipolar", have "aspergers" "schizophrenia" or "ADHD?" Believe me, the way America is headed, we'll find out.



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09 Dec 2008, 1:10 am

Alright, you've got your heart in the right place, but the way to hell is paved with good intentions. Kids (teenagers especially) aren't always the brightest and will most likely interpret your idea as advocating recreational drug use. You'd have to take time to explain at every show that you are showing love for something that helped you, and that you are not using drugs for hedonistic pleasure. People that actually need the medication are going to get it either way. My fear would be that your message would be misunderstood by impressionable youth. It's my personal opinion that there are more noble things to stand for, but if you're going to make music, you may as well make it as personal as you can. Just make sure you take responsibility for your actions.

Good luck with the music. Keep us updated.


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09 Dec 2008, 4:27 am

I think it could be a good idea, but maybe I'm only saying this because I am familiar with anti-psychotic medication.

I don't think other people would understand where you are coming from. It would have to be explained and if anything has to be explained people don't generally listen.

I know that if I had to explain something like that to "friends" or to people I kind of knew, they would be dumbfounded and just wouldn't understand.


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09 Dec 2008, 5:42 am

Proceed with caution big pharma companies are notoriously litigious.

If you were to wear one of their own branded t-shirts they might object, although I don't know what they could do about it, send you a 'cease and desist' letter? But they could, potentially, argue that you didn't make the distinction clear enough, that you were saying their drugs were harmful to *everyone*, even though you might just want to convey that the side effects affect *some* people, i.e. you. And they could, potentially, try to claim that you damaged their drug brand or their overall brand and want to claim losses from you. Not sure whether they would have a legal leg to stand on, but such legal niceties doesn't usually stop big pharma or any other big corporation for that matter, their legal department and their pockets are bigger and deeper than yours...

There is, however, a tradition of subvertising, e.g. with Coca Cola and the Caterpillar brand and others.

You might be better off trying to design your own t-shirt subvertising the issues you're concerned about.



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13 Dec 2008, 12:02 am

I used to play in a band for a big Pharma company. We played a company picnic, and they liked us so much they laid off everyone but the rhythm section...;)

ok, stretching the truth a bit. They don't really do clothing the way they used to, everyone's trying to save money, because of the economy. pens are actually fair swag, nowadays...;)



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13 Dec 2008, 12:41 am

doctor's families always have lots of that stuff


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