Debunking Chick Myths

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That comment was not directed at anyone but ELLCIM

I figured as much. I just thought I should say that before anyone jumped to such a conclusion about me.

Well firstly, those weren't my theories; they were a split between one guy we call "RB" from Ontario, and another guy who is a well-known and respected radio host/reporter in Toronto, Ontario, who knows what he's talking about. And people agreed with these guys - even the left-wingers.

In all my high school and university years so far, the number of women I have met who are not in a relationship or have not recently been in one can be counted on three hands. And bear in mind I went to a huge high school, and I go to one of the largest universities in Canada now.

Now, you must bear in mind that I live in a region where there is a substantial dominance of men over women demographically in my age bracket; I believe the ratio of men to women here in my age group is about 11:9, which means that for every 11 men, there are 9 women. If all nine women get into a relationship, there will always be two guys left out. It is easy for women in Canada at my age to get into a relationship, because there is so much competition between the men, and basic economic theory says that the men would rather take a woman who they aren't all that fond of than be one of the two out of eleven that gets left out. I see what some define as "fat and ugly" women in relationships all the time. Just yesterday I saw one groping and making out with a fairly slim guy at a bus stop. So please, site administrator, know that I'm just speaking from regional statistics and demographics, which may be very different for your age group and region.

Most of the women that are single I have talked to have said that they don't have trouble finding guys, but they admit they are too picky and can't make up their minds about which man they want.

How do you think a guy like me feels in such a competitive market for women? It is almost impossible to find a single woman, but I know plenty of single men. Perhaps women are stronger than men in numbers in your age bracket, where you live. And don't tell me my statistics are crap, because I researched this data from Statistics Canada (www.statcan.ca).

My original point was that women should at least give me a chance.

Oh by the way, some girls actually AGREE with me on what I've said. And these were hot ladies.

And here I am a couple months later, in much better physical shape then usual, but still no SO. I just got over another bad bout of depression. Life's full of ups-and-downs, eh?

Interesting how nobody is arguing with my points now.

Why argue your points when they're so obviously wrong that everyone but you can see it? When you ignore the arguments, there's never any point in arguing with you. They may as well leave you to your opinion, and let you get on with your single life.

That's why I'm not arguing. Ellcim, I'm not arguing with you because I will never get through to you and it's a waste of time. I think the posters on this thread have simply given up trying to make you see any side of it other than your own. I, personally, still think you are abso-frickin-loustely dead wrong in most of your posts on this thread.

Argue with me all you want. That's what forums are for. Debating is an art that I enjoy, and nothing is meant to be taken personally. Debating is not about caving into other peoples' view; it's about developing arguments to back up your own view. I don't care if anyone agrees with me; in fact I want to see intelligent arguments against my views. I think some people here are taking things way too personally.

Also, I think some people are uncomfortable that I found statistics to back up my points, and they don't have anything to refute them. You don't have to like the statistics (I don't like them either), but they are fact and I don't see how my statistics are abso-frickin-loustely dead wrong. If you don't like these stats, then complain to Statistics Canada, not to me.

I think some of us just want to bring this whole thing down to the lowest common denominator.

Ellcim- note that I said MOSTLY wrong. The statistics I don't doubt. Just your viewpoint.

I don't have anything constructive to add to this discussion, but i'd like you to know that in the virtual debate room, i'm quivvering in fear in the corner for ever having thought or believed anything wrong, close-minded, or stereotypical with respect to womens general behaviors. So afraid. So very very afraid. I'm not even being the slightest bit sarcastic.

Yes, be very afraid.

Also, why has nobody addressed this one point I posted that FAVOURED women? "Men do the picking, women do the choosing. Most of the time, the woman dumps the man. Men, smarten up. Women don't lie -- men just don't listen. Same as it ever was." I'll repeat that - "Men just don't listen." That was from the radio station forum, and people thought it was garbage.

Also, I don't know how this can be disputed - "We're the ones who have to look stupid and cross the bar floor and ask some woman out when she's got about 5 of her friends sitting right there. It's very intimidating for the quiet and shy types." Don't forget, that's the way it has traditionally been, and while it isn't like that as much today as more women are asking men out, it still makes up the majority of ask-outs.