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28 Feb 2010, 2:16 pm

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My experiences with falling in love have followed much the same pattern throughout my life.

I fall in love with a woman whom I obsess over for years. What I find frustrating and I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this, is that if the woman in question begins to seem attracted to me, I immediately start to find fault with her. She isn't as smart as I had assumed or she has bad taste in literature or she isn't quite as beautiful as I had remembered..


I'm the same actually, the second I get even a hint that there's a possibility that the object of my affection reciprocates my feelings, they become less attractive to me. Strange...



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28 Feb 2010, 2:22 pm

jagatai wrote:
My experiences with falling in love have followed much the same pattern throughout my life.

I fall in love with a woman whom I obsess over for years. What I find frustrating and I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this, is that if the woman in question begins to seem attracted to me, I immediately start to find fault with her. She isn't as smart as I had assumed or she has bad taste in literature or she isn't quite as beautiful as I had remembered.

This has happened in a few cases throughout my life and I find it surprising just how predictable it is. It seems to me that this is a method I use to avoid the very real anxiety that comes with negotiating intimacy.

I am a self diagnosed Aspie and mostly I feel it is relatively mild. At any rate, I suspect I pass for normal so long as I am not dealing with strangers or women I am greatly attracted to. But where I seem to go a bit overboard with the standard Aspie symptoms is in anything that remotely resembles dating and intimacy.

I have not yet found a way to avoid finding reasons not to take the emotional risks of love and friendship. The result is that, despite the fact that a lot of the more annoying Aspie symptoms have eased with age, I still find myself growing more and more isolated. I'm good at analyzing a situation and proposing solutions, but this is one I haven't been able to solve.


I deal with the same thing. I don't plan to but it happens all the same. I've thought a lot about it and I think my personal issues are twofold. One is trust. Not trust about fidelity or trust about money but trust that I can still be me. If I have to keep on a false face all the time I don't think I could manage . Another is the after effects of being raised by a hyper -critical perfectionist father. Just the thought of a LTR makes me feel defeated and trapped.



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28 Feb 2010, 2:39 pm

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One is trust. but trust that I can still be me.


Interesting. Up through my 30's I always feared my personality being subsumed by the other person if I were in an intimate relationship. Now in my 40's this fear is much reduced, but then again, I also don't tend to fall in love as easily.

I wonder if there is some sort of basic problem in knowing where one personality ends and the other begins in the Autistic style of thinking.

I also have fairly critical, although quite loving, parents. I have benefited a lot from their criticism, but I've no doubt it has had it's down side as well. Don't know if there is a connection, but it is interesting to note the similarity in our backgrounds.

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28 Feb 2010, 3:34 pm

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One is trust. but trust that I can still be me.


Interesting. Up through my 30's I always feared my personality being subsumed by the other person if I were in an intimate relationship. Now in my 40's this fear is much reduced, but then again, I also don't tend to fall in love as easily.

I wonder if there is some sort of basic problem in knowing where one personality ends and the other begins in the Autistic style of thinking.

I also have fairly critical, although quite loving, parents. I have benefited a lot from their criticism, but I've no doubt it has had it's down side as well. Don't know if there is a connection, but it is interesting to note the similarity in our backgrounds.

Lars


The best I can explain it is the only time I feel completely emotionally safe is when I am alone.



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28 Feb 2010, 3:34 pm

I just keep it cool, and talk as I would with any other friend.


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28 Feb 2010, 3:35 pm

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I wonder if there is some sort of basic problem in knowing where one personality ends and the other begins in the Autistic style of thinking.


After a bit of consideration, it seems to me that the issue here may be just a matter of the usual over stimulation that people with AS have trouble with.

Another person is very much like sound, smells, visual noise or any other stimulus. The more over stimulation I get from another person, the more I tend to close in on myself. Normal NT behavior might be to try to get closer and more intimate with other people which to me feels like their personality is expanding, filling the available space and I have to compress my personality to compensate. The default behavior of an NT would tend to be very oppressive to an Aspie. This would likely leave Aspies feeling that engaging in relationships that involved any significant intimacy would "consume" their persona.

This sounds like a good description of the way I respond to intimacy and at any rate is a fine excuse for why I can't get a date. :-D



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28 Feb 2010, 3:43 pm

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I came across this online test, which determines how likely it is that you have Asperger's, and one of the questions that was asked was 'when you like someone, do you become obsessive and can't let them go?'. I never knew that this was a trait of Asperger's, but it certainly rings true to me. When I'm interested in a guy, I become obsessive and shamefully almost stalkerish in my behaviour. It's almost like they are my 'special interest', which I need to know everything about.


What are your experiences with 'crushing'?


I become obsessive but detached.

It's hard for me to establish a relationship once the boundaries have been crossed. I think part of it is the fear of rejection or not living up to what that person expected of me from an external point of view.

This rings a small bell. I don't like when that someone worries about my expectations. It can be cute for a little while, but I prefer to make the person in question feel accepted.


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28 Feb 2010, 4:47 pm

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-405- wrote:
I came across this online test, which determines how likely it is that you have Asperger's, and one of the questions that was asked was 'when you like someone, do you become obsessive and can't let them go?'. I never knew that this was a trait of Asperger's, but it certainly rings true to me. When I'm interested in a guy, I become obsessive and shamefully almost stalkerish in my behaviour. It's almost like they are my 'special interest', which I need to know everything about.


What are your experiences with 'crushing'?


The object of my limerence is an Aspie on the other side of the World, in Finland maybe. He's hijacked my BlackBerry, controls my Internet access, hears all my calls, reads all my emails and I adore him.
Er...not to sound negative, but that sounds like a dangerous situation. :?


Thank you for the reply Pigeon.


I have never felt threatened or that I was in a dangerous situation by him doing this.


I know quite a lot about him as well.


He uses the signals as a way to communicate yes or no. He sometimes uses my Internet access as a guide to direct me to a forum we use. He knows what I'm searching for when I'm searching and he let's me know in advance which search result is best. He also let's me know when he doesn't like something. I would rather that he be honest and communicate in this way than not.


We communicate on the forum where we met and we have photographs of each other also. The best thing that I like about this situation; we can do our own thing and have our space but still be able to be linked. Maybe one day we will meet. Whatever happens, I hope we will always remain friends. :)

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01 Mar 2010, 11:15 am

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-405- wrote:
I came across this online test, which determines how likely it is that you have Asperger's, and one of the questions that was asked was 'when you like someone, do you become obsessive and can't let them go?'. I never knew that this was a trait of Asperger's, but it certainly rings true to me. When I'm interested in a guy, I become obsessive and shamefully almost stalkerish in my behaviour. It's almost like they are my 'special interest', which I need to know everything about.


What are your experiences with 'crushing'?


The object of my limerence is an Aspie on the other side of the World, in Finland maybe. He's hijacked my BlackBerry, controls my Internet access, hears all my calls, reads all my emails and I adore him.
Er...not to sound negative, but that sounds like a dangerous situation. :?


Thank you for the reply Pigeon.


I have never felt threatened or that I was in a dangerous situation by him doing this.


I know quite a lot about him as well.


He uses the signals as a way to communicate yes or no. He sometimes uses my Internet access as a guide to direct me to a forum we use. He knows what I'm searching for when I'm searching and he let's me know in advance which search result is best. He also let's me know when he doesn't like something. I would rather that he be honest and communicate in this way than not.


We communicate on the forum where we met and we have photographs of each other also. The best thing that I like about this situation; we can do our own thing and have our space but still be able to be linked. Maybe one day we will meet. Whatever happens, I hope we will always remain friends. :)

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Okay, I was just a bit concerned, but I'm glad you feel so happy with your situation.



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01 Mar 2010, 4:28 pm

Thank You Pigeon. :)



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02 Mar 2010, 5:44 pm

i'm going through this right now and it's tough as hell. i also work with the dude and he's unavailable anyway, but the feelings are mutual which is making me extra crazy. at first i was loving the intoxicating feeling of having a crush but now i'm just mad as hell, i do this to myself all the time and it hurts. i'm trying to not make myself crazy over him, but i'm doing it anyway and it sucks bad.

i haven't really upset him yet except i had a meltdown at work yesterday, he doesnt want me to take my anger out on my work and get in trouble, which is cool i guess. although a part of me wishes he didn't care so damn much. damn you, how dare you care about me? i'm all about hating the world and wanting to be alone all the time and then this fellow comes along and i've never gotten along with anyone so well in my life. and now i spend all my time wanting him and stuff and i'm lucky if we can have a ten minute talk with each other with no interruptions or eavesdroppers. :(

yeah so all i can say is FFFFUUUUUUUU lol. at least i go on a mini vacation next week, dont have to deal with my co-workers, or have that whole thing stressing me out, i'll be alone and i'm going to see my favorite band :D



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02 Mar 2010, 8:05 pm

I act like an obsessed goofball. I probably even talk in my sleep about it. Crushes have the potential to make me feel like I'm going to die at any moment.



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03 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm

I guess it's somewhat relieving to know that this is somehow tied with AS. All of my teenage years had been about getting over one crush or another and I always felt it was unnatural to be so disproportionately interested in people I barely knew.

I tend to keep it in check these days. My lack of regular social interaction with people probably helps keep it from happening, as well.

Despite my AS tendencies, I've been known to be pretty passionate in relationships (the two I've had), once trust is established. So maybe the crushing carries over into it.

I guess another way to look at it is that when you're lonely all the time, another person is as good a hobby as anything. :)



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03 Mar 2010, 6:03 pm

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somewhat relieving to know that this is somehow tied with AS. All of my teenage years had been about getting over one crush or another and I always felt it was unnatural to be so disproportionately interested in people I barely knew.

I tend to keep it in check these days. My lack of regular social interaction with people probably helps keep it from happening, as well.

Despite my AS tendencies, I've been known to be pretty passionate in relationships (the two I've had), once trust is established. So maybe the crushing carries over into it.

I guess another way to look at it is that when you're lonely all the time, another person is as good a hobby as anything. :)


I have kept mine in check by trying to find as many faults as I could with them. It actually worked very well for 15 years. My last crush was my late husband. Something happened when we both found out his time was limited. I was devastated and became numb he became selfish and died angry. My crush was gone before he was.

I have no idea what happened this time. I live like a recluse myself. I didn't even see it coming. The man and I didn't even like each other. He was mean to me, I was mean to him right back. Then out of I don't know where, he was like a God and I was worshiping him. He still is like a God and I am still worshiping him.

Taupey :)



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03 Mar 2010, 6:46 pm

jagatai wrote:
My experiences with falling in love have followed much the same pattern throughout my life.

I fall in love with a woman whom I obsess over for years. What I find frustrating and I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this, is that if the woman in question begins to seem attracted to me, I immediately start to find fault with her. She isn't as smart as I had assumed or she has bad taste in literature or she isn't quite as beautiful as I had remembered.


I've always done this too. For the past year I've been completely crazy about a guy, and during that time I had no idea if he liked me back or not. Just a few weeks ago we started getting intimate and suddenly I'm losing interest, which sucks because he's absolutely wonderful. I know he's wonderful and really quite perfect for me, but I still can't help having negative thoughts about him. It really creeps me out.



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03 Mar 2010, 6:52 pm

I become a little obsessive when I have a crush, almost to the point where I start pissing people off.

WoundedDog wrote:
I guess it's somewhat relieving to know that this is somehow tied with AS. All of my teenage years had been about getting over one crush or another and I always felt it was unnatural to be so disproportionately interested in people I barely knew.

I tend to keep it in check these days. My lack of regular social interaction with people probably helps keep it from happening, as well.

Despite my AS tendencies, I've been known to be pretty passionate in relationships (the two I've had), once trust is established. So maybe the crushing carries over into it.

I guess another way to look at it is that when you're lonely all the time, another person is as good a hobby as anything. Smile


WoundedDog, I know exactly how you feel, except it seems that I tend to have a excessive bias about those in my age group. I'm trying to restrain my gaganess over my crushes, but it's hard.