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19 Sep 2011, 8:52 pm

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But as soon as someone gets to know me a little better, it's over, despite my best efforts.

The worst part fof it is that I've done pretty much everything you're "supposed" to do and I still can't inspire anything: nothing, zero.

I see guys who are supposedly far less "eligible" than I am actually getting somewhere, I simply can't get even the tiniest reaction from anyone - I might as well be a different species. I f*cking hate it.


Dude, and I mean no offence by this, but for a 44 year old you whine a lot!

Maybe it is this forum where you are letting things out (which would be the point); but, seriously, from my brief time on this forum, the moment I see your name the word whiner (and to an extent troll) just springs into my mind.
It just seems so incredibly, annoyingly, immature coming from a 44 year old, this would be exponentially more so in real life.

Sorry, I had to get it out. :/



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19 Sep 2011, 8:55 pm

I'd just been wondering the same thing. (About myself, I mean, not you, Grisha). I keep telling myself that with all I have going on in my life right now, I'm not 'in a good place to date,' which may indeed be true. But, if I'm going to be honest with myself, even when my life's not too chaotic and I'm at my best, things are still no different in that particular area of my life.

With me, though, I think it's a combination of fear of making an earnest effort, which will most likely lead to me getting hurt again and being too stubborn to make the changes I need to start feeling 'dateable' again. At least you can say you've been making an effort at working at this and, the longer you do, the more likely you are to find someone soon.



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19 Sep 2011, 9:00 pm

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I'd just been wondering the same thing. (About myself, I mean, not you, Grisha). I keep telling myself that with all I have going on in my life right now, I'm not 'in a good place to date,' which may indeed be true. But, if I'm going to be honest with myself, even when my life's not too chaotic and I'm at my best, things are still no different in that particular area of my life.


I know what's wrong with me... I have Aspergers. Not only does this mean I'm oblivious to when someone likes me, I appear dismissive. Oh, and let's not forget the guy I scared off last week by telling him I had AS. I might as well have "I am damaged" plastered on my forehead.


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19 Sep 2011, 9:07 pm

Everyone's damaged. Screw him.



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19 Sep 2011, 9:08 pm

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Everyone's damaged. Screw him.


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19 Sep 2011, 9:38 pm

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Grisha wrote:
But as soon as someone gets to know me a little better, it's over, despite my best efforts.

The worst part fof it is that I've done pretty much everything you're "supposed" to do and I still can't inspire anything: nothing, zero.

I see guys who are supposedly far less "eligible" than I am actually getting somewhere, I simply can't get even the tiniest reaction from anyone - I might as well be a different species. I f*cking hate it.


Dude, and I mean no offence by this, but for a 44 year old you whine a lot!

Maybe it is this forum where you are letting things out (which would be the point); but, seriously, from my brief time on this forum, the moment I see your name the word whiner (and to an extent troll) just springs into my mind.
It just seems so incredibly, annoyingly, immature coming from a 44 year old, this would be exponentially more so in real life.

Sorry, I had to get it out. :/


It looks to me like you are whining about him. :shrug: Maybe you should read your own words.


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19 Sep 2011, 9:54 pm

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It looks to me like you are whining about him. :shrug: Maybe you should read your own words.


My whinings are [usually] limited to one-offs :p



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19 Sep 2011, 9:56 pm

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Grisha, you look like Hugh Grant circa 1995.

You make me laugh. That's attractive. Every time I see one of your posts I muse that the picture looks like Hugh Grant. I just googled hugh grant mug shot. It is Hugh Grant. That's funny.

And you're in the big house; not that Big House. So you have two houses.

My take; maybe LA is the wrong place for an affluent, competant, hard working, amusing aspie who resembles Hugh Grant in a bad mood to attract attractive women.

Have you considered Boston? Would 5 months of foul weather be too off putting? Harvard & MIT; lots of nerdy professorial women, some attractive.


Boston would be great! Especially because that's where MV lives :)

I feel much more comfortable/accepted on the east coast but I am chained to LA - that's where my children live (with their mother) and I have to be close to them - they live 50 miles away right now and even that is difficult for me...



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19 Sep 2011, 10:01 pm

We can only do our best, and be the best people we can be. I really admire you Grisha, for your career achievements. My best hope is that I will achieve big things and have a successful career in my lifetime, that I will make a difference in the world somehow, in some way. These things are real - and these things come after hard work and perseverance.

Romance is more whimsical. It's chancy, and sometimes despite your best efforts you may not get anywhere. I don't hold any expectations in my life, romantically. I will try to be the best person I can be, and be good to others. If things don't work out for me in that area, then that's ok. In some ways it's like illness; you can rail, and scream, and get furious about the unfairness of it all, but in the end it's something ultimately outside of your control, and you can only find peace when you accept that and the work on the things you can do and control to improve the situation and give yourself the best chance you can of recovery/success. In both these areas, I have peace within myself. If in life I end up single, that's ok. If I remain sick indefinitely and am unable to ever be as I once was again, that's ok.


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19 Sep 2011, 10:08 pm

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We can only do our best, and be the best people we can be. I really admire you Grisha, for your career achievements. My best hope is that I will achieve big things and have a successful career in my lifetime, that I will make a difference in the world somehow, in some way. These things are real - and these things come after hard work and perseverance.

Romance is more whimsical. It's chancy, and sometimes despite your best efforts you may not get anywhere. I don't hold any expectations in my life, romantically. I will try to be the best person I can be, and be good to others. If things don't work out for me in that area, then that's ok. In some ways it's like illness; you can rail, and scream, and get furious about the unfairness of it all, but in the end it's something ultimately outside of your control, and you can only find peace when you accept that and the work on the things you can do and control to improve the situation and give yourself the best chance you can of recovery/success. In both these areas, I have peace within myself. If in life I end up single, that's ok. If I remain sick indefinitely and am unable to ever be as I once was again, that's
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You are so wise beyond your years Sunshower :)

Of course everything you say is true - but I find it incredibly therapeutic to "rail, scream, and get furious about it" once in a while. :wink:

In fact, I feel better already - thanks so much to everyone who posted... :)



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19 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

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I feel much more comfortable/accepted on the east coast but I am chained to LA


Understood, being near your kids is the best. Both my girls have settled in the southern east coast where they have established their adult lives admirably, but I miss them.

Thanks for the smile, Grisha, but I live in CT. NYC is my near big city. I simply intuited Boston for you. It's a bit colder than NY but also more sane.



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19 Sep 2011, 10:24 pm

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I feel much more comfortable/accepted on the east coast but I am chained to LA


Understood, being near your kids is the best. Both my girls have settled in the southern east coast where they have established their adult lives admirably, but I miss them.

Thanks for the smile, Grisha, but I live in CT. NYC is my near big city. I simply intuited Boston for you. It's a bit colder than NY but also more sane.


I actually spent the last 3 days in NYC - I'm on the plane back to LA right now (inflight WiFi!) every time I come here I wonder why I don't live here - I could even tolerate the weather if I could live somewhere where I felt a little more comfortable/accepted.

But my children are young (6&9) and I need to be near them - even if I only get to see them every other weekend...



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19 Sep 2011, 10:24 pm

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but I find it incredibly therapeutic to "rail, scream, and get furious about it" once in a while. :wink:


Yes, I had a good cry a few weeks ago. :P


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28 Sep 2011, 9:47 pm

MadnessMaddened wrote:
Grisha wrote:
But as soon as someone gets to know me a little better, it's over, despite my best efforts.

The worst part fof it is that I've done pretty much everything you're "supposed" to do and I still can't inspire anything: nothing, zero.

I see guys who are supposedly far less "eligible" than I am actually getting somewhere, I simply can't get even the tiniest reaction from anyone - I might as well be a different species. I f*cking hate it.


Dude, and I mean no offence by this, but for a 44 year old you whine a lot!

Maybe it is this forum where you are letting things out (which would be the point); but, seriously, from my brief time on this forum, the moment I see your name the word whiner (and to an extent troll) just springs into my mind.
It just seems so incredibly, annoyingly, immature coming from a 44 year old, this would be exponentially more so in real life.

Sorry, I had to get it out. :/



Did it occur to you that he could depressive I think most of the aspies here are most of you chasing things that are apparently important to us :shrug: material success, friends, higher education (I can read a book ) etc etc.

Non depressive aspie now realise these things do not matter to me one iota :D


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28 Sep 2011, 9:56 pm

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MadnessMaddened wrote:
Grisha wrote:
But as soon as someone gets to know me a little better, it's over, despite my best efforts.

The worst part fof it is that I've done pretty much everything you're "supposed" to do and I still can't inspire anything: nothing, zero.

I see guys who are supposedly far less "eligible" than I am actually getting somewhere, I simply can't get even the tiniest reaction from anyone - I might as well be a different species. I f*cking hate it.


Dude, and I mean no offence by this, but for a 44 year old you whine a lot!

Maybe it is this forum where you are letting things out (which would be the point); but, seriously, from my brief time on this forum, the moment I see your name the word whiner (and to an extent troll) just springs into my mind.
It just seems so incredibly, annoyingly, immature coming from a 44 year old, this would be exponentially more so in real life.

Sorry, I had to get it out. :/



Did it occur to you that he could depressive I think most of the aspies here are most of you chasing things that are apparently important to us :shrug: material success, friends, higher education (I can read a book ) etc etc.

Non depressive aspie now realise these things do not matter to me one iota :D


Well, I figured that having confidence, determination, and have some sex appeal were the elements of gaining a attraction, so I am doing it.

God darn it! If getting a girlfriend is a sale job, then so be it! Let's all stop hiding behind the computer and show our face like a man! I am pretty sure whining and self-pity aren't the man type to have.

Remember this, at the time of great depression comes great strength and mental power after revival. I experienced a deep depression but was changed shortly after in a week.



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28 Sep 2011, 10:19 pm

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Oh, and let's not forget the guy I scared off last week by telling him I had AS. I might as well have "I am damaged" plastered on my forehead.


As a guy diagnosed with Aspergers, I have to say that saying that to me would have gotten me MUCH MUCH MORE interested in you, unlike that undoubtedly NT guy.