Are unattractive guys often unjustly seen as rapists...

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31 Oct 2012, 3:36 pm

I am female, but my stereotype of a rapist is indeed an unattractive, usually middle-aged man. In reality, most rapes happen either in incest or in dating situations.



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31 Oct 2012, 3:37 pm

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I'll answer the OP with a resounding "hell yes." I would know because I'm one of these unattractive people. It's not my posture (my posture is practically perfect) and I don't stare either. In fact I've gotten called creepy just for sitting in the library reading a book. The book was about cars, so it wasn't that what I was reading about was creepy.

Fact is, most people are just dicks.

I wouldn't want to live where you live atm, as seen in the pics you posted here, you look far from creepy, so you can bet your ass it's because of where you live and not because of how you look or act.



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31 Oct 2012, 3:49 pm

The guy who attacked me was almost a complete social outcast and I pretty much forced my guy friends in high school to treat him like a person but most of my female friends called him "the raper" etc.

I think sometimes that label is indicative of behavior that makes women uncomfortable and not something based on being ugly or awkward.

Women have plenty of reaso. to he ccareful and I think that's why these labels exist. I went out of my way not to judge someone based on his social capital and I ended up having "the raper" break into my house and to just what his title suggests.

So it does happen unfairly, because women are often fearful, and labelling men like that is a way for us to express to others that we find something threatening about a guy.

And it's nigh impossible to refute.


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31 Oct 2012, 3:50 pm

By the way, I couldn't help thinking of this video when I read this post:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcyNANK5cY[/youtube]



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31 Oct 2012, 3:51 pm

I think it goes along with the whole stereotype. Unattractive males are more often than not reserved, with few friends, etc., and when some incident gets sensationalized in the media, people are always quick to point out that the person kept to themselves, were shy, etc.

Also public opinion/rumors can play a huge part. Say an attractive woman out with her friends is approached by an unattractive man and the man asks her for a date. There are times when the women are dumb and make up crap like "oh how creepy, what a stalker." and stuff like that spreads like wildfire.


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31 Oct 2012, 3:55 pm

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I'm going to answer your thread with a reluctant "Yes." People are incredibly vain these days and vanity is promoted. It's very common for people to think somehow you having an off day or being uncomfortable has more to do with what you would do to them or how you fit into their life, or somehow you are checking them out (because everyone is so checking them out) and because you don't quite fit the looks bill you must be a rapist or tramp or sex offender of some kind :lol:

I'm pretty sure this is only a recent societal development. I remember before the turn of the century it was not like this so much. People wouldn't think too much of people that approached others for otherwise innocent things.


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31 Oct 2012, 4:45 pm

Stargazer43 wrote:
By the way, I couldn't help thinking of this video when I read this post:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcyNANK5cY[/youtube]

He looks a bit like Marc Dutroux (famous belgian serial killer) with the glasses on.



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31 Oct 2012, 4:55 pm

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I can see an unattractive guy being viewed as a stalker type merely for asking a woman out.



I've seen guys ask girls out and the girl was freaked out ant told Him "get away from me, creep." Then i've seen another guy that is considered good looking go up to the same girl, doing and saying the exact same thing the "creepy" guy did, and she goes out with Him.



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31 Oct 2012, 4:57 pm

People assume good qualities in attractive people and bad qualities in ugly people. Even teachers overestimate the intelligence of pretty, slim children. This isn't a new area of judgement. Sometimes people don't like or are put off by someone, we can't make people like us and they're entitled to their opinion and to chose who they socialize with.


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31 Oct 2012, 9:41 pm

Uprising wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
I'll answer the OP with a resounding "hell yes." I would know because I'm one of these unattractive people. It's not my posture (my posture is practically perfect) and I don't stare either. In fact I've gotten called creepy just for sitting in the library reading a book. The book was about cars, so it wasn't that what I was reading about was creepy.

Fact is, most people are just dicks.

I wouldn't want to live where you live atm, as seen in the pics you posted here, you look far from creepy, so you can bet your ass it's because of where you live and not because of how you look or act.


I'm starting to get to the point now where I'm beginning to believe it's not me at all, and that it's like what you said here. What's funny is that the actual creeps around here get treated better than I do. Sort of a Bizarro-World situation.


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31 Oct 2012, 11:55 pm

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JanuaryMan wrote:
I'm going to answer your thread with a reluctant "Yes." People are incredibly vain these days and vanity is promoted. It's very common for people to think somehow you having an off day or being uncomfortable has more to do with what you would do to them or how you fit into their life, or somehow you are checking them out (because everyone is so checking them out) and because you don't quite fit the looks bill you must be a rapist or tramp or sex offender of some kind :lol:

I'm pretty sure this is only a recent societal development. I remember before the turn of the century it was not like this so much. People wouldn't think too much of people that approached others for otherwise innocent things.

Vanity isn't promoted, people are basically vain because they are born vain and their parents (or grandparents) were probably vain.

I'd say this is a result of the wrong people having sex and breeding, while the good people get left out because they're too "creepy" to them.


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01 Nov 2012, 12:52 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
People assume good qualities in attractive people and bad qualities in ugly people. Even teachers overestimate the intelligence of pretty, slim children. This isn't a new area of judgement. Sometimes people don't like or are put off by someone, we can't make people like us and they're entitled to their opinion and to chose who they socialize with.


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01 Nov 2012, 1:43 am

I think so.

Why? quite simple really.

The label rapist is used for people that make women uncomfortable by invading their personal space and or staring at them or several other things. Truth is: if she is attracted to you you can do almost all this things and act like its a joke.

If she isnt attracted to you she'll tell you that she is uncomfortable.


Same goes to men though: pretty women are let off the hook for plenty of: mind games/ neediness/ you name it and Ive seen plenty of guys breaking up with their partners for far less than that



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01 Nov 2012, 5:02 am

It isn't necessarily unattractive people that are more vulnerable to persecution and prejudice attitudes towards people that didn't fit the conventional bill have always existed. If you drive a street racer car and you are a young person, the police will be more likely to pull you over. People make assumptions and stereotypes based on presentation and appearance, that's just how it is.



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01 Nov 2012, 5:14 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
People assume good qualities in attractive people and bad qualities in ugly people. Even teachers overestimate the intelligence of pretty, slim children. This isn't a new area of judgement. Sometimes people don't like or are put off by someone, we can't make people like us and they're entitled to their opinion and to chose who they socialize with.


Sure, people are entitled to their opinion but if they are willing to voice their ignorance towards people, other people are free to voice intolerance towards their ignorance. If people never challenged prejudice and ignorant behaviour, nothing would ever change.



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01 Nov 2012, 7:26 am

Uprising wrote:
I created this thread because women often look at me with scared eyes and somehow they give me the impression that I've been stalking them when by the time they give me that impression it's actually the first time I actually see them and notice they actually exist on this planet.


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