The_Face_of_Boo
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28 Feb 2013, 3:01 am
28 Feb 2013, 3:35 am
28 Feb 2013, 3:42 am
I think people generally find people who are opinionated and sure of their opinion intimidating as most people go with the flow and take on the group opinion/opinion of their peers. A person who takes an opposing opinion is often seen as 'not one of us' and sometimes 'trouble' as well.
The trouble with most people is they give no feedback as to what their real opinion is so you're kept in the dark. I've noticed if you mention anything to do with mental health around the average person they get a wary, slightly disturbed expression on their face and start moving you out of the 'assumed normal' category pretty rapidly! Lol I find this quite amusing and it makes me want to talk about it more! You can almost see a warning alarm go off in their head 
Ironically, they're probably most at risk from their partner, friends or relatives, who may well be harbouring all manner of mental dysfunction, which will never be diagnosed due to the very same stigma against mental health, hence their own social group's stigmatisation of mental ill-health is putting their safety more not less at risk. We should therefore be far more scared of /intimidated by them than vice versa in my opinion as their 'normality' masks a multitude of dysfunctions.
28 Feb 2013, 3:02 pm
nessa238 wrote:
I think people generally find people who are opinionated and sure of their opinion intimidating as most people go with the flow and take on the group opinion/opinion of their peers. A person who takes an opposing opinion is often seen as 'not one of us' and sometimes 'trouble' as well.
The trouble with most people is they give no feedback as to what their real opinion is so you're kept in the dark. I've noticed if you mention anything to do with mental health around the average person they get a wary, slightly disturbed expression on their face and start moving you out of the 'assumed normal' category pretty rapidly! Lol I find this quite amusing and it makes me want to talk about it more! You can almost see a warning alarm go off in their head
Ironically, they're probably most at risk from their partner, friends or relatives, who may well be harbouring all manner of mental dysfunction, which will never be diagnosed due to the very same stigma against mental health, hence their own social group's stigmatisation of mental ill-health is putting their safety more not less at risk. We should therefore be far more scared of /intimidated by them than vice versa in my opinion as their 'normality' masks a multitude of dysfunctions.
The trouble with most people is they give no feedback as to what their real opinion is so you're kept in the dark. I've noticed if you mention anything to do with mental health around the average person they get a wary, slightly disturbed expression on their face and start moving you out of the 'assumed normal' category pretty rapidly! Lol I find this quite amusing and it makes me want to talk about it more! You can almost see a warning alarm go off in their head
Ironically, they're probably most at risk from their partner, friends or relatives, who may well be harbouring all manner of mental dysfunction, which will never be diagnosed due to the very same stigma against mental health, hence their own social group's stigmatisation of mental ill-health is putting their safety more not less at risk. We should therefore be far more scared of /intimidated by them than vice versa in my opinion as their 'normality' masks a multitude of dysfunctions.
That's a really good point. It makes a lot of sense, too. I tend to disagree with people a lot, and they seem to exclude me from groups because of it. Lately, I've pretended like I agree, and it seems to be helping. That realization was a kick in the head right now...
28 Feb 2013, 5:14 pm
rabbittss wrote:
You could have been born in the south.. where it seems every other person is vertically challenged and the foot they're lacking in height they pack in padding around the mid section..
I want to move to a place where "Dunlap disease" is not something people feel entitles them to ride the electric scooters at walmart!
I want to move to a place where "Dunlap disease" is not something people feel entitles them to ride the electric scooters at walmart!
You could be describing most of Connecticut, as well, I'm sorry to say - the only difference is that here, they might have a bit more money to spend at WallyWorld...
28 Feb 2013, 5:20 pm
28 Feb 2013, 5:33 pm
Kinme wrote:
Definitely. People tend to think I'm a snob. I honestly have no idea why I come off that way. *Shrug*
I definitely know why *I* come off that way. I constantly throw my Mensa status around when I'm in discussions with folks who are clearly my intellectual inferiors, yet who vehemently insist that their (embarrassingly-limited and mostly-erroneous) views on a topic are the correct and most knowledgeable ones. I want them far away from me, so I slide all-too-easily into "elitist, stuck-up, arrogant, ivory-tower-wannabe" b1tch mode. And it's been happening all too frequently, lately...
28 Feb 2013, 5:39 pm
28 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm
SINsister wrote:
Kinme wrote:
Definitely. People tend to think I'm a snob. I honestly have no idea why I come off that way. *Shrug*
I definitely know why *I* come off that way. I constantly throw my Mensa status around when I'm in discussions with folks who are clearly my intellectual inferiors, yet who vehemently insist that their (embarrassingly-limited and mostly-erroneous) views on a topic are the correct and most knowledgeable ones. I want them far away from me, so I slide all-too-easily into "elitist, stuck-up, arrogant, ivory-tower-wannabe" b1tch mode. And it's been happening all too frequently, lately...
The thing is, though, that if you want to be on WP, you'll have to accept their opinions, you know?
28 Feb 2013, 5:45 pm
Kinme wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
I think people generally find people who are opinionated and sure of their opinion intimidating as most people go with the flow and take on the group opinion/opinion of their peers. A person who takes an opposing opinion is often seen as 'not one of us' and sometimes 'trouble' as well.
The trouble with most people is they give no feedback as to what their real opinion is so you're kept in the dark. I've noticed if you mention anything to do with mental health around the average person they get a wary, slightly disturbed expression on their face and start moving you out of the 'assumed normal' category pretty rapidly! Lol I find this quite amusing and it makes me want to talk about it more! You can almost see a warning alarm go off in their head
Ironically, they're probably most at risk from their partner, friends or relatives, who may well be harbouring all manner of mental dysfunction, which will never be diagnosed due to the very same stigma against mental health, hence their own social group's stigmatisation of mental ill-health is putting their safety more not less at risk. We should therefore be far more scared of /intimidated by them than vice versa in my opinion as their 'normality' masks a multitude of dysfunctions.
The trouble with most people is they give no feedback as to what their real opinion is so you're kept in the dark. I've noticed if you mention anything to do with mental health around the average person they get a wary, slightly disturbed expression on their face and start moving you out of the 'assumed normal' category pretty rapidly! Lol I find this quite amusing and it makes me want to talk about it more! You can almost see a warning alarm go off in their head
Ironically, they're probably most at risk from their partner, friends or relatives, who may well be harbouring all manner of mental dysfunction, which will never be diagnosed due to the very same stigma against mental health, hence their own social group's stigmatisation of mental ill-health is putting their safety more not less at risk. We should therefore be far more scared of /intimidated by them than vice versa in my opinion as their 'normality' masks a multitude of dysfunctions.
That's a really good point. It makes a lot of sense, too. I tend to disagree with people a lot, and they seem to exclude me from groups because of it. Lately, I've pretended like I agree, and it seems to be helping. That realization was a kick in the head right now...
Hmmm, honestly, I wouldn't like to have to agree to something just because everyone else does. Particularly if I'm right and they aren't (and I don't mean believing subjectively I'm right, I mean like people insisting that 2+2=5 when you try to show them it's 4).
28 Feb 2013, 5:45 pm
Kinme wrote:
The thing is, though, that if you want to be on WP, you'll have to accept their opinions, you know?
I'll respectfully disagree.
First off, I've been a member here at WP for many years, so I know the drill. Secondly, I definitely respect people's opinions, but that absoflippin'lutely does NOT mean in any way, shape, or form, that I have to accept them. Lastly, when I talked about arguing with intellectual inferiors, I was speaking mainly about the folks with whom I'm stuck (or was stuck, up until very recently) interacting on a daily basis, in "real life."
28 Feb 2013, 5:47 pm
Kinme wrote:
Thus is the reason why exclusion happens, right? People think you're "normal" until you have a different opinion or do something "off". It's hard to try to act normal all the time, lol.
You mean, "sheeple." They're irrelevant.
01 Mar 2013, 3:38 am
SINsister wrote:
Kinme wrote:
The thing is, though, that if you want to be on WP, you'll have to accept their opinions, you know?
I'll respectfully disagree.
First off, I've been a member here at WP for many years, so I know the drill. Secondly, I definitely respect people's opinions, but that absoflippin'lutely does NOT mean in any way, shape, or form, that I have to accept them. Lastly, when I talked about arguing with intellectual inferiors, I was speaking mainly about the folks with whom I'm stuck (or was stuck, up until very recently) interacting on a daily basis, in "real life."
I was in a hurry and didn't have much time to write. I meant more that you'll need to deal with seeing their opinions because they're plastered everywhere on here. *Shrug* Ohhh. Okay. Well, that's the sucky part. That's when being excluded happens, and I feel ya in regard to that. Not sure what else to say about it.
01 Mar 2013, 3:39 am
SINsister wrote:
Kinme wrote:
Thus is the reason why exclusion happens, right? People think you're "normal" until you have a different opinion or do something "off". It's hard to try to act normal all the time, lol.
You mean, "sheeple." They're irrelevant.
Until you're forced to deal with 'em. Is there another technique for it?
01 Mar 2013, 3:54 am
01 Mar 2013, 1:07 pm
