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Why do girls hate shy guys?
They expect their men to protect them (sexism) 14%  14%  [ 15 ]
Society says shy guys are bad 18%  18%  [ 20 ]
Shy guys are worse at sex 4%  4%  [ 4 ]
Shy guys are just boring 22%  22%  [ 24 ]
Women who reject introverts are just as superficial as men who reject fatties (duh!) 13%  13%  [ 14 ]
Other 29%  29%  [ 32 ]
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31 Jul 2013, 10:06 pm

Women don't always reject shy guys.
If you are shy, learn some social skills, but also learn to use your shyness to your advantage.

The two shiest guys in my group are also the two who are probably the most appealing.
(and before anyone asks, no they are not the most handsome, tallest, or most muscular - it's their personalities that make them appealing)
One of them is now dating my aspie friend.

Before with what you wrote, you wrote factors that *wouldn't* affect you negatively, and many where simply physical... you never actually mentioned any true positives about who you are as a person, your general character, your hobbies, what you love, what you're doing with your life, etc.


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31 Jul 2013, 10:08 pm

Shatbat wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know? I believe the best way to help you is to break your self-esteem first, then you'll have a more realistic idea of who you are and what you need to improve on. I went through that myself when I was 16, thankfully I never got to the bitterness stage, just to the cluelessness one.

But everytime you face something you'd rather not face you always flee, as you're doing now. This will be my last message to you, as long as you keep avoiding the facts and protecting your ego nothing about your current situation will change, and no amount of whining will ever change that, ever.
it is never a good idea to diminish someone's self esteem especially when you know nothing about them, and are just some little kid on a message forum with autism.

noone can break my self esteem ive had many try in my life...im just as conceited as eveer ;)


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31 Jul 2013, 10:08 pm

But men also reject women,just because you are female it does not mean you will have a date on Friday.


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31 Jul 2013, 10:09 pm

Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love others as you would have them love you. All you need is Love.



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31 Jul 2013, 10:12 pm

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But men also reject women,just because you are female it does not mean you will have a date on Friday.
but liz, the diff is, being a girl allows you to get hit on more than men..and let's face it, even if your marriage wasnt a good one, you still got married, had sex, led a normal life. many guys here havent even kissed a girl. girl's have the advantage.


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31 Jul 2013, 10:15 pm

Women may have it easier than men, but women are usually nicer than men, as well.

It's all in the attitude.



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31 Jul 2013, 10:16 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
it is never a good idea to diminish someone's self esteem especially when you know nothing about them, and are just some little kid on a message forum with autism.

noone can break my self esteem ive had many try in my life...im just as conceited as eveer ;)

And I thought you weren't answering?
Anyway, It's been almost a year since I first noticed you. I may not know much, but I know enough and I'll trust my judgment on that one. And we'll agree on something; as of now I consider you officially hopeless, and I won't try to do that again. But I still wonder, why do you post on WP? :scratch:


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31 Jul 2013, 10:27 pm

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So whats wrong with an autistic girl? If an NT girls said she didn't want to date you because you were autistic, how would you feel? What would you think of her? If you don't want to date a girl because she's autistic then you are doing exactly what NT women are doing to you. There is no difference.


no I like moderate autism women. I've dated two,and had sex with one.



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31 Jul 2013, 10:30 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
But men also reject women,just because you are female it does not mean you will have a date on Friday.
but liz, the diff is, being a girl allows you to get hit on more than men..and let's face it, even if your marriage wasnt a good one, you still got married, had sex, led a normal life. many guys here havent even kissed a girl. girl's have the advantage.


I don't think my marriage counts as a success story,and it was not a normal life.I'm glad i have my two kids,but most of it sucked.I would not go down the same path.You should channel your energy into something creative.Sex is awesome,I won't lie about that.And girls also have all the disadvantages,getting used for sex,getting pregnant,the slut/stud double standard,etc..


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31 Jul 2013, 10:35 pm

billiscool wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
So whats wrong with an autistic girl? If an NT girls said she didn't want to date you because you were autistic, how would you feel? What would you think of her? If you don't want to date a girl because she's autistic then you are doing exactly what NT women are doing to you. There is no difference.
no I like moderate autism women. I've dated two,and had sex with one.

Autistic women - just like their non-Autistic counterparts - are each one different from the other in some way.

Before we were married, I told my wife that I am not a romantic person (this was before I even knew what AS was). She is a very romantic person. I think that we've somehow met in the middle.

It may have helped that in her native culture, women are expected to do two things: (1) Support their husbands in every way, and (2) Don't take any of their husbands' BS.

Love and respect flow both ways.



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31 Jul 2013, 10:36 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
i never said aspies is the end all be all, like all disabilities some guys can overcome it, but most wont. I also havent seen the girls these guys are dating..many guys like bill are dating girls they dont even like..bill wants nt girls not autistic girls.
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wait,I like autism girl.the last autism girl I dated,I loved very much. Im just saying,I don't think any sane nt women
would ever date me because Im a moderate autism man.

sorry if there a misunderstanding



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31 Jul 2013, 10:43 pm

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what exactly do you think i think? only thing i restrain is that i think it's unfair how women can be quite shallow and how women reject shy guys. I dont hate women, or hate anyone.

This, in its very structure is a hateful statement... women... no qualifier... your statement, by it's wording means ALL women... period... that is what you said. You don't point out that men are just as guilty... you don't single out a type of women... you just say women... And if that is not what you meant... then it is NOT our fault for YOU not posting what you meant... it falls upon you as the communicator to communicate your intent as PRECISELY as possible...


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I really said nothing negative about anyone other than oom's husbands who are scumbags for hitting her. i think that makes me an upstanding guy for caring about her wellbeing.

I'm not going call you on this except to say... I saw the post that got deleted...

FOR THE RECORD... In just this thread...
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btw your post is garbage

This is negative...

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girls want high t masculine guys who make them wet and make them feel safe.

You have stated with this post that women are inherently shallow and slaves to their hormones.

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your post about ''oh just do this'' or ''go get a girl who is a friend to practice with'' clearly illustrates how easy aspie women have it.

Dismissive to an entire class of people... relegating people who tend to have a higher incidence of sensory issues, OCD and andxiety disorders as comorbid conditions...

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as ok as a guy can be knowing he will never get p****.

Relegating the social role of women to ... their genitalia... nothing more...

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oh fnord the word twister of the forum..

Negative and insulting...

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yeah a misogynist calls her husband scum bc i dont like people who beat their spouses male or female. right.

No. He called you a misogynist based on the rest of your commentary AND the deleted comment. As a feminist (WHO IS MALE), This is how you have come across to me... and the NTs in my house.

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.you are scum too for going back to him and saying he is more worthy of love than the many virgins of this forum who are respectful.

You did... at this point call OOM scum... There is no way that this is NOT negative... unless of course you meant that in the nicest possible way.

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im not jealous that your husband has a lazy 60 year old housewife with a bad temper

and this was completely complimentary, I am sure.

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Did you even graduate high-school?

Insulting someone's education isn't negative?

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the reason you have a husband is because you are a female

Another blanket statement about women... Which... again... is very disrespectful...

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but i dont think they are any less remarkable than a lot of the douschebag guidos out there getting p**** every night....

Again, reducing women to their genitalia... and a racial slur.

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liz, are you straight? It can be tougher for females if they are lez, bc most girls aren't.

just... really???

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maybe it's the dateless that comes first word twister fnord?

Again, insulting... and for the record... that is never the case... it comes from attitude... I promise you.

Now... this was all of the insulting comments in this thread up to the point that I joined the conversation that I found in a simple glance... If you really believe that your intent was not to be insulting, you may want to revamp your language toolkit... however, it does not seem to be the case... especially with commentary like "I come to this forum bc im too nice in real life and never say what itruly want."... Where you tell us you have restraint in real life and then come here to release your vitriol.

That being said... I did not write this post to initiate a witch hunt (you seem to be able to do this on your own)... I wrote it in the (vain) hope that you will see how you come across and will take the steps to correct it... The people here can be your greatest allies... an ear to listen, friends, confidants and sounding boards to test concepts and ideas... or... we can just ignore you... really, the choice is yours to make.

I am done on this topic.


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31 Jul 2013, 10:51 pm

Isn't it amazing how a common cause can bring so many disparate people together and unite their efforts, if not their spirits?



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31 Jul 2013, 10:52 pm

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Not with THAT attitude! Negativity will kill your chances almost as quickly as will body odor.


what sane nt women would ever date a semi-special autism guy. very,very,very,very few,if that.
but I can and have dated autism women(yes,I like autism women)



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31 Jul 2013, 10:54 pm

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Isn't it amazing how a common cause can bring so many disparate people together and unite their efforts, if not their spirits?

Quite... Though...I am ashamed of you... *wink*you did not yell at any of these people for going off topic


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31 Jul 2013, 10:55 pm

billiscool wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Not with THAT attitude! Negativity will kill your chances almost as quickly as will body odor.
what sane nt women would ever date a semi-special autism guy. very,very,very,very few,if that. but I can and have dated autism women(yes,I like autism women)

Autistic women can be nice; sometimes more sincerely nice than NT women.

You have great potential. Keep trying, and try to not let the disappointments bother you. Eventually, you will find the right woman for you.