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A lot of fat women have attitude and still manage to get laid or even boyfriends. I have personally witnessed this. Men are extremely sex-starved. They are willing to lower their standards to embarrassing levels in order to get laid. And they are willing to lower their standards (to a lesser extent) when getting a girlfriend as well.

The short curvy girl I'm talking to has a busy and stressful corporate career. She doesn't need a man to take care of her financially. And if she wants kids, she can delay child rearing into her 30s and in the mean time in her 20s, go on dates and sleep with cute guys above her in looks. It's only when it comes to commitment that it becomes difficult for girls to tie men down above their level in looks. But even then I still see good looking guys, some of them tall even, holding hands with frumpy overweight or even obese girls.

I actually did "test" her by sending her a message with one of my fake accounts (a ripped muscular alpha male who describes himself as well-endowed) a couple weeks ago. Before I even replied to her. My alpha male offered her casual sex. She didn't even reply. So it's clear that she's looking for more than sex. After all I'm less attractive than the alpha male. But she's talking to me. She's at that stage in her life where she doesn't just want to fool around with alpha males. She wants a boyfriend or at least a romantic fling. And she's willing to lower her standards some in order to get that. But she still wants a cute 7 like me instead of dating a guy more at her level (like a 4, 5 if I'm generous). This is why she appears eager with me but probably wouldn't give the time of day to a guy more around her level in looks.

I do feel guilt that I'm talking like that about a girl who has been nice to me and finds me attractive. But that's reality. I feel guilt about indulging her hypergamic impulses. Like I'd be doing a disservice to uglier, fatter guys by sleeping with a girl 2-3 points below me. Damning those guys to a life of inceldom. But if a girl is showing interest in me and I just somehow find myself in the mood to kiss her and maybe escalate to more down the road, it would be difficult for me to deny myself that. I see it as a weakness on my part though. To give in like that. But I'm not desperate about it in the way that other guys are. If I don't get laid with her, it's not a big deal because I can have sex with a far hotter, bubbly curvy girl for $200/h. If I just have to satisfy the curvy girl itch. I'm a big fan of short, thin "spinners" too. Always fun to have a petite hot thin girl sit on my face while performing fellatio on me. Variety is the spice of life. It's the same with escorts. I feel guilt over spending $200 on an hour of sex. I think to myself "My tablet was $257 all-in. My ultrabook was $744 all-in. Is one hour of pleasure really worth $200 compared to the many hours of pleasure and productivity and personal growth I get from the laptop and tablet? But I like having sex with pretty, sweet girls and I like kissing, cuddling with them, etc. It's a weakness of mine. But I have kept spending on that hobby in check so it's fine. I have spent far more money "going out" with friends within the past couple of years. When I live a hermit lifestyle, I end up saving so much money. That puts things in perspective.

Escorts can change your mentality as well and can leave you spoiled though. I came across a 5'1" tanned Italian descent hottie looking at my profile earlier. Really sexy legs. Banging body. Hazel eyed brunette. Pretty face. Great hair. Pretty feet. Nice sense of style. There is no way that I'd manage to bang her. Because she put on her profile that she wants an outgoing guy. And I'm not an outgoing guy. But the thought came to my mind that I wish I could just message her online asking her if she'd be willing to sleep with me for $200/hour. I'm afraid that she'd think I was a creep and maybe even report me so this is why I would never offer though. But if I knew that she would do it and if she did what I want in the bedroom (I'm not demanding. Kissing, cuddling, fellatio, cunnilingus, sexual intercourse and just being nice to me. Though with that particular girl, I may just add foot, leg and ass worship and performing analingus on her because she's so hot. The latter is only something I want to do with girls that really turn me on and are clean down there of course. What I would normally get in a typical "girlfriend experience" session with escorts. That's all that I really need. Anything more than that is a bonus). So I'd rather just cut to the chase and have sex/kiss/cuddle with her rather than waste our time going on a date that will go nowhere. It's very possible that she'd accept a date with me (after all I am a cute guy and she's short so it's very possible). But if it's not going to go anywhere, what's the point? I'm so used to the instant gratification of having sex with attractive strangers. So naturally it will follow that I wish I could just pay hot girls on dating sites or wherever off to cut straight to the sex.

Last edited by feenie on 12 Oct 2013, 3:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.

that's a lot of psychopathology, I can't even go there anymore but I'm still curious about this rating system

does the bit where you rate yourself 7 take into account your shortness as something that makes you generally less attractive to women (so for example, if you were 6' you'd be an 8 ) or is it purely a comparison of how attractive you have assessed this girl to be (to you or to everyone?!?) so that in your mind you seem like at least two attractiveness points above her?

add: would you still be a 7 if you were comparing yourself to someone who you perceived as very attractive? And also, could someone be acknowledged as a 10 by society but then individual people rate them different numbers? I have actually seen this when people discuss famous actresses.

Also, could this redhead change anything about herself that would make her rating go up? Like for example, if she lost weight and became slim, what number would she be then?

Height does not make one less attractive. Either way, the rating system is arbitrary and shallow. I avoid anyone that uses it.

A lot of ladies would disagree with that.

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why are guys obsessed with sex so much?


Among girls, having sex with a bunch of guys isn't a badge of honor. In a girls circle they want to be seen as pure, popular, desired, and strong. They do not sit around and talk about how easy, slu*ty, and insecure they are.


Now, let me throw out a couple of disclaimers. Sure, a few girls believe that guys like them more when they use their body. Guys, where do you think they got that idea? It wasn't from other girls. Yeah, it was from guys. Guys are the ones destroying girls like this. So listen fellas, it's time to stand up and be men and protect girls instead of using them. We are supposed to protect girls instead of using them. We are supposed to protect and honor women like real men do.

Feminism: the radical concept that women are human beings.

Dude...
You've been listening to too much MRA propaganda. No, women do not 'primally' want every guy they sleep with to get them pregnant, any more than men want to knock up every woman that they sleep with. Most humans, of both genders, have sex because it's fun. Humans were having sex for fun long before we even knew that sex and pregnancy had anything to do with each other.

As for "hypergamous impulses," you say that like it's a bad thing... but only when you're talking about women doing it. Why the double standard?

I had a pleasant afternoon with my son and my parents. Came home, read the most recent 4 pages of this thread and now my brain hurts. There is just so much that is so wrong being said here that I wouldn't even know where to start.

"Men" are not saying these things. Feenine and other MRAs - hardly a majority - are saying these things. It's just a rebranding of the same old sexist/backlash s**t.

agree completely.

translation: I think that women are as shallow in judging people based on their looks as I am.


Translation: not all men are attracted to the same things that I am, and it makes me frustrated and angry.


Eeeyeahh, she's reallllly "hypergamous" with you.(/sarcasm) A pretty face isn't all there is to a person. Go see the prostitute, and leave your 'curvy readhead' alone; it will be better for her in the long run.

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