Women, are you attracted to muscular guys?

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There's a lot of people who lift weights purely to be better looking.

Having a "good body" (by the popular perception) has more to do with having low body fat than huge muscle mass. If you're overweight, no amount of working out will make you look "ripped". Overweight + lifting = looking like a football lineman. That's not what most overweight people want.

What about overall health and fitness?

It's very surprising to hear from some women here they actually don't care about body type at all.

I'd rather have a nice body, average face and average personality, than an out of shape body but better than average personality. But apparently the out of shape guy always wins.

Are all of these men are completely equal in attractiveness if they all had a good personality, took care of their appearance, equal height, dressed what you as a woman consider nice, was hardworking, friendly, what you personally consider funny, you like being around him, and had a pleasant looking face?



Sometimes, I honestly wish more girls and women were more shallow and cared about looks the way us men seem to. Physical appearance can be changed and improved, including face to an extent. Personality can be, but is more innate and even been found to be partly genetic.

People can't express their personality, it's looks that people see first. You only really discover someone's personality and character once you get to know them, which takes anywhere from 6 months to several years.

I hear some girls and women say they might not be physically attracted to a guy at first and maybe even find his body unattractive, but will find his body attractive once she develops emotional feelings for him.

I honestly would be saddened if she wasn't attracted to me physically or even found me ugly in the beginning.

How nice does that sound? To know your partner thought you were an ugly, repulsive mug when you first met them, and the only reason they like your body now is because the chemicals in their brain called 'love' has blinded them.

Research has shown when people are in 'love' their brain underestimates negatives qualities and overestimates positive qualities, and you'll be attracted to them no matter what they look like. Love really is blind.

Yes, this is actually someone wishing girls and women were more shallow.

Maybe I'm not the only one, a lot of us Aspie males have struggled to make friends, talk to women or make social connections, we may have struggled with relationships due to our lack of social skills.

So, for some of us, we almost must use looks to gain leverage, because our 'character' and 'personality' or lack thereof aren't sufficient enough to gain any attention from women at all, let alone end up on a date with one.

Plenty of aspie men here are friendly, good and caring people.

But I see some women say 'niceness' is 'boring' and the 'bare minimum' of what a guy can be and 'if niceness is your only redeeming quality, you must be a very boring person'.

Well, not everyone can be or actually wants to be super funny, extraverted, confident, charming etc.

Some people just want to be fit and healthy, yet 'nice' and a good listener.

At this point, maybe the key is to use online dating and Tinder and if you're rejected, say you want to only be their friend and do that - only be their friend.

Get to know a ridiculously high amount of them, and actually be their friend. Spend time with them in purely platonic activities, and make sure she is 100% aware they aren't dates.

Do this, make 25 female friends, be friends with all of them for 2-6 years, and see if you get lucky and one falls for you.

Yeah, I think "monstrous tree bark man" is a pretty accurate description of the horror that is Dude A. To me, even Dude B looks like someone with a bad allergy to bee stings who just got stung all over by a whole hive full of bees. Too puffy-looking.

Competitive bodybuilding = Big $$$$

Yes, A is most likely on steroids, most competitive bodybuilders are.

Personally, I think B to F all have good looking physiques, so long as most of E and F's weight is muscle despite their higher body fats.

I couldn't possibly see B in a negative light.

I don't see 'vain' 'narcissism' 'unhealthy obsession' or 'steroids'. I see hard-work and dedication.

Bodybuilding is more than a sport, it is a science. It is easier to achieve and maintain the Brad Pitt Fight Club physique over the physique of an IFBB professional.

It isn't difficult to achieve 6-10% bodyfat with regular exercise and diet without the use of any steroids and peosupplements if you have the knowledge and dedication. It depends on how passionate you are, manyple truly enjoy exercise and nutrition if they come from an active family or a family with an athletic or military background.

The obesity problem in the US and the UK is created by the lack of information concerning processed food or sugar, it doesn't help that fast food chains are in every major town either. My girlfriend is from a European country and it is surprising at how much more educated she is when it comes to nutrition, there is a reason why countries in Europe have the lowest obesity rate in the world

I found the Czech people to be surprisingly slim and fit, despite their "fatty" cuisine (a lot of pork, and creamy meals...etc).

Monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats are good for a healthy diet, fat is important for growth development and cell functions. Refined carbohydrates and sugar are the primacy cause for metabolic syndrome and the main contributor towards obesity in the US and the UK, it is a common misconception used by fad diet routines that fat is the reason for obesity.