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28 Dec 2017, 10:00 am

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I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.



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28 Dec 2017, 10:47 am

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I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.



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28 Dec 2017, 12:52 pm

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I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...


I don't want that either but I live in an area that tries to beat you into becoming a robot.



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28 Dec 2017, 5:56 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
314pe wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
nazaya wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.

They are also really pretty and work good paying jobs. They wouldn’t date guys like most aspies guys. I too haven’t meet any nd women locally. I’ve meet playful women which I find super attractive it they’re are all 25 and younger and thus Wouldn’t date me likely. But I don’t make enough either.



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28 Dec 2017, 6:33 pm

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I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...


I don't want that either but I live in an area that tries to beat you into becoming a robot.


It really is time for you to move. There is a whole world out there, and you should be able to find someplace you can be appreciated for who you are and loved by someone you love in return.


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28 Dec 2017, 7:00 pm

Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?



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28 Dec 2017, 7:08 pm

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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


This guy. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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28 Dec 2017, 7:11 pm

sly279 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
314pe wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
nazaya wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.

They are also really pretty and work good paying jobs. They wouldn’t date guys like most aspies guys. I too haven’t meet any nd women locally. I’ve meet playful women which I find super attractive it they’re are all 25 and younger and thus Wouldn’t date me likely. But I don’t make enough either.


I’m playful when I’m happy and not stressed, and around my people, which is almost never.

Wish I could be more of the girl I know I am inside. Too many complicated thought patterns, I’d love to be stupid and not think about anything except what I enjoy, that would be great.



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28 Dec 2017, 7:23 pm

Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.



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28 Dec 2017, 7:46 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
314pe wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
nazaya wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.


Didn't Hurtloam leave? I don't know who Slw is, and Hale_Bopp's personality is mostly unknown to me. Most of the women I've encountered here I'm neutral with at best.



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28 Dec 2017, 8:16 pm

Marknis wrote:
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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


I was going to say something face of boo like but I’d best not be a silly troll.



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28 Dec 2017, 8:39 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Marknis wrote:
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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


I was going to say something face of boo like but I’d best not be a silly troll.


I honestly can't tell if your posts are supportive of me or against me.

Boo's posts don't really phase me.



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28 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm

Sabreclaw wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
314pe wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
nazaya wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.


Didn't Hurtloam leave? I don't know who Slw is, and Hale_Bopp's personality is mostly unknown to me. Most of the women I've encountered here I'm neutral with at best.

I think Hale_Bopp was here long before I was. Then she disappeared for a while and obviously she’s back. I’ve crushed on her a long time and she keeps ignoring me. Honestly, though, that’s prolly the smartest thing she could do.



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28 Dec 2017, 9:25 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
314pe wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
nazaya wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.


Didn't Hurtloam leave? I don't know who Slw is, and Hale_Bopp's personality is mostly unknown to me. Most of the women I've encountered here I'm neutral with at best.

I think Hale_Bopp was here long before I was. Then she disappeared for a while and obviously she’s back. I’ve crushed on her a long time and she keeps ignoring me. Honestly, though, that’s prolly the smartest thing she could do.


And I wish you would finally get out of my threads. What do you not get when I tell you that your posts do not help me? You also sided with Chichkov as well as jrjones against me. I am never going to take any advice from you. Why can't you get that?



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28 Dec 2017, 9:32 pm

Marknis wrote:
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I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...


I don't want that either but I live in an area that tries to beat you into becoming a robot.


It's called world... =P

I know what you mean, but still, it's less difficult than it seems. Many people think that it's harder for aspies, but for NT people, finding the perfect match is also like looking for a needle in a haystack. One will never find a person that meet our expectations, so it's more like a negotiation. If you find a person that is interested in you enough to "negotiate" with you, you're on the right path. Then you will let pass some of your "requirements", and she'll do the same. Oneself needs to work in having something different to offer that women/men can't find in someone else.

So don't be fooled by apparently succesful NT relationships, most of them aren't truly happy, and neither found the love of their lives, if you don't believe me look at the divorce rates.

Most people like unique things, unique experiences, unique persons, etc, so don't be average. Avoid the mistake of using AS (if it's the case) as an excuse for not trying to change some things that you'll surely need to change in any relationship, either you're NT or ND (and I'm not talking about being fake). And don't get obsessed with wanting a relationship, or don't show it, it could make you to look desperate. Well, I can tell you many advices about relationships, but it isn't the topic. PM me if you want.