The irrational standards women have toward men

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04 Jan 2018, 10:34 pm

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Like what?

I agree but I'm sure the raising standards of both men AND women in modern western countries is at least part of the reason.

The percentage of single people is also on the rise or at all time highs in several places including the USA and Australia.

We are living in a much colder, lonelier and loveless time.

People are working longer hours, everyone seems too focused on the almighty dollar, their careers, etc. to care about relationships any more or ever changing their incredibly high standards that average people simply don't meet.

I don't think it's only women with these higher standards either, btw.


The dollar exactly. All our lives all everyone’s life’s is all about making the rich elite more money. They control the government, media, education system, job market etc. they litterally control everything and it’s all controlled and geared to make them more money or they wouldn’t have spent money on it. As I just said women weren’t as picky in the past. Any guy with a job would been good enough for most average women, but it’s not today. They demand well paid college educated men. Average joe working a low paid job isn’t good enough anymore. Who benifits in the grand scheme from this? The rich who that well paid men work for an dmake them money, why because women won’t date them otherwise, so they strive to make rich more richer in exchange to meet women’s every increasing standards of men. Meanwhile the standards for women go down. Women don’t have to be thin anymore, don’t have to be submissive Or obedient, feminism’s mov,ent got rid of those, women are accepted fat and anyone who disagrees is shamed. Women are rightly encouraged t be dominant and independent . I agree with removing female stereotypes. I just wish women would care about also removing male ones which most don’t as it benifit them to keep them around imagine if rejecting low paid men got you shamed and shunned by society like rejecting fat women does to men.
Imagine if everyone saw it for what it is superficial. Those women would become few instead of the majority.
Men don’t care enough to unite it’s a dog eat dog world for men, they won’t do s**t thst helps other men. They’d rather have all the women to themselves then help other men find gifs or get rid of the stereotypes that prevent such men from getting gfs, and any attempt to do so is attacked by feminism and the left as being misogynistic. There never will be any male rights movement cause that idea in itself is considered misogynistic by the left. It’s truely sad.



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04 Jan 2018, 10:41 pm

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God some of the people here are disgusting, honestly, get a life. The guy who called women garbage is garbage himself, the majority of women here hate him and I don’t see it being different in real life after people get to know him.

7 pages over night, lmao.

Well apparently he was talking only about his exes who cheated on him, does that change your view?
Lots of women care cheating exes garbage.
I never cheated and women call me worthless, or trash or garbage or not a real man.

Majority of women here hate single aspies, so what. Give you he is a bit more legit as some of his views are bit extreme, but most male aspies on wp or atleast in l&d are hated, we represent a part of reality most women would prefer didn’t exist, that there are no sad lonely men who aren’t good enough to be loved.
Men I think women here like is probably kr, auntyaudi,that Christian guy who thinks he’s the aspie prohet(he’s probably half liked half hated) and maybe boo, thought lots of women hate boo here too. So I’d say maybe he’s 90% hated, as he funny and makes some women laugh sometimes.



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04 Jan 2018, 10:47 pm

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Outrider wrote:
Like what?

I agree but I'm sure the raising standards of both men AND women in modern western countries is at least part of the reason.

The percentage of single people is also on the rise or at all time highs in several places including the USA and Australia.

We are living in a much colder, lonelier and loveless time.

People are working longer hours, everyone seems too focused on the almighty dollar, their careers, etc. to care about relationships any more or ever changing their incredibly high standards that average people simply don't meet.

I don't think it's only women with these higher standards either, btw.


People are way to focused on careers. People with kids put their kids in day cards all day everyday in the name of their careers. People constantly need to busy and don't make time for each other.

And it all only benifits the rich elite. Most those people will work their whole life’s never really having one and die in debt left to their child who will work their whole life , guess the only pluse side is now half of them won’t have kids.
The rich are worried though now see after my generation there’s not enough kids to fill the jobs the rich need to make them money. The whole system will fail it’s why social security is going bankrupt there’s not enough people to replace all the retiring baby boomers. Machine shops are the hardest hit. They can’t find replacements. It’s a dying art one that’s very needed for society to keep going. But it’s not a college educated job it’s not a six figure job. It’s a boring job too. Doing the same thing day after day after day. Sounds great for me, except for the stress and anxiety if messing up. Dealing with thousands of an inche ,messurements. Oh well. . Our local shop has a 60 old one handed guy doing one job and they can’t find anyone to replace him when he retires.

Dirty jobs guy is trying to get more interest img low paid blue collar jobs that we need as a society to keep going but no one wants as they all believe they have to make six figures as a lawyer or doctor etc.



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04 Jan 2018, 10:53 pm

Is steroids illegal? How much are they if they not illegall?

I’d like an emotion dampening or killing drug. Suppose I’d be a sycoph then though?

I wish I was born in Some 3rd world contry bet if I’d been born in North Korea I’d have a wife and kids. Sure I’d have parities in my stomach and live a shorter life but maybe a happier simpler life. Even being a British peasant would probably been better then what I am today.



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05 Jan 2018, 12:44 am

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Are you sure it’s that, there is no possibility that your personality and methods of interacting with people are unattractive? Can you explain why so many short, bald and overweight men seem to have families?

lol sly. No one needs to change their standards. It’s your problem they aren’t attracted to you, not theirs. Feminism is about the oppression and mistreatment of women. If someone doesn’t want to date you, they’re not mistreating you. No one owes someone else their attraction.

You like healthy weight women, right? You sexually prefer them? Women with feminine body shapes? It’s because it’s what biology dictates. Healthy women promote healthy offspring. You don’t have to be attracted to fat women if you’re not feeling it.

Biology dictates in women to go for good providers, strong men who protect and provide, negotiation and social authority which adds to that protection etc.

How exactly is it fair for you to be allowed to not feel anything for fat women, but it’s not okay for women to follow those biological instincts?

It really seems more like you are all butt hurt no one will have you so you blame the world. It’s the way it is. I’m not ideal for men, and I don’t expect them to change for me!! ! ! !


I'm not butthurt at all. I haven't been on any dating site nor even had a date for 2 years from now. I don't care anymore because it's all a big fuss about nothing but I see many of my male fellows suffer because of it and I'd highly advocate men to refuse dating women because it doesn't worth. Most women just use men for their money or status.

It's a lie that personality matters the most when it's looks.

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Racist guy still manages to get attention because of his looks

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Actual average people getting married:

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In fact, I would say most of these people actually slightly above average in looks because wedding photographers only post the better looking people to their portfolios. I'd also say the women are better looking than the average woman more than the men are better looking than the average men.



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05 Jan 2018, 12:45 am

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Is steroids illegal? How much are they if they not illegall?

I’d like an emotion dampening or killing drug. Suppose I’d be a sycoph then though?

I wish I was born in Some 3rd world contry bet if I’d been born in North Korea I’d have a wife and kids. Sure I’d have parities in my stomach and live a shorter life but maybe a happier simpler life. Even being a British peasant would probably been better then what I am today.


I don't seem compatible with my future.

Physical jobs are dying out and being replaced by machines.

I don't want to ever work a desk job. I hate the very idea of it. But it seems studying Science, Technology, Engineering or Mathematics is what makes the money nowadays and all of these jobs you need to use a computer all the time.

If there was one other world or country I wouldn't mind being born in, it's being born a few hundred years ago in a tribe before the Europeans arrived.

I am 1/4th Aboriginal Australian and the culture and traditional beliefs of my ancestors is closer to how I view the world and want to live my life than what modern life is and wants me to be.

No steroids are illegal in Australia but the percent of people who use them is growing according to a study.

My point was is that there are many male actors and celebrities who use steroids in America to create a perfect body.

These bodies are unrealistic but they are all over TV and Movies and Music.

You said the media influences how we think and what we want and I agree.

I also think the media is filled with perfect supermodel women that make men have unrealistic standards too.

It's all wrong. It's disgusting and superficial.

Lots of tv shows and movies also show the main character live in expensive houses or drive expensive sports cars or flash their money around.

The steroid thing was just an example.

Just like science and technology is going to keep developing things humans can buy or illegally buy to make themselves 'perfect'.

Just like how there are teeth whiteners, plastic surgery, special creams to make your skin perfectly smooth and clear, etc.

My hygiene is normal. I shower twice a day, wear decent clothes, brush twice a day, but I look average.

I have a few zits on my face, my skin looks greasy sometimes, my teeth are a bit crooked from an accident and yellowish, etc.

My body type is slightly fit. I'm average height.

But then you get these perfect Hollywood people, with pearly white teeth, 6'2'' or more, big bulging muscles and shredded abs from steroids, plastic surgery making his face look perfectly shaped, special expensive creams taking away all the zits, wears makeup too to hide the moles and pimples, uses liposuction to suck undesired fat of certain places, wears expensive clothes $200 sunglasses $800 designer shirt etc.

It's like when tthis is ALL over TV and movies people will want it and not want anything less.

Meanwhile if an average guy like me went to some poor country to them I would look like the celebrity. My skin super smooth and clear to them, my hair nice and shiny, teeth yellow sure but not really yellow or black or gum diseased, my decent clothes would look fancy to them, my slightly fit body might look much better, etc.



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05 Jan 2018, 12:59 am

That’s an interesting point. Why don’t some of you consider visiting a poorer country?

Sly, you think you’re hard done by, but your country is rich, your dollar is worth 0.7 of mine. I also live in a rich country, so you would not be poor in average or poor countries.

Didn’t you say you would spend $350 on a dating site membership? Why not start putting small amounts of money away to go and visit a place like Thailand?



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05 Jan 2018, 1:10 am

hale_bopp wrote:
That’s an interesting point. Why don’t some of you consider visiting a poorer country?

Sly, you think you’re hard done by, but your country is rich, your dollar is worth 0.7 of mine. I also live in a rich country, so you would not be poor in average or poor countries.

Didn’t you say you would spend $350 on a dating site membership? Why not start putting small amounts of money away to go and visit a place like Thailand?


I wouldn’t recommend Thailand. It has an authoritarian government, their criminal justice system is a joke (100,000-year prison sentenced?!?!). It‘s illegal to criticize the king, there‘s an ISIS-aligned rebel group in the southern part.

It‘s not like the movies, it‘s just your average third-world country.


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05 Jan 2018, 1:15 am

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hale_bopp wrote:
That’s an interesting point. Why don’t some of you consider visiting a poorer country?

Sly, you think you’re hard done by, but your country is rich, your dollar is worth 0.7 of mine. I also live in a rich country, so you would not be poor in average or poor countries.

Didn’t you say you would spend $350 on a dating site membership? Why not start putting small amounts of money away to go and visit a place like Thailand?


I wouldn’t recommend Thailand. It has an authoritarian government, their criminal justice system is a joke (100,000-year prison sentenced?!?!). It‘s illegal to criticize the king, there‘s an ISIS-aligned rebel group in the southern part.

It‘s not like the movies, it‘s just your average third-world country.


What’s it like in the movies? There are other choices in that area. Fact of the matter is white men in rich countries are very sought after. Same with white women in rich countries, though the probability of the women dating a poor foreign man is pretty much 0.



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05 Jan 2018, 1:18 am

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Women wear wigs, high heels, fake nails, clothes which tighten their often fatty figures to appear "sexy" they go as far as to have facial surgeries, fake boobs, skin ageing creams, almost all women paint their hair. Everything a woman says almost always includes some little lie to appear a bit more perfect than they truly are. I can't help but it's in their genes. They have this utterly urge to appear as sexy as they can to attract the opposite sex while we men let's say..

wake up, wash our face about to take a shower once a day sometimes we skip it because we're lazy. We don't care if we don't appear perfect in front of everyone unless our job requires so. We don't make that much lies about our sexual needs and more can't talk about the other sex 24/7 like women chit chat with other women about men and their cock sizes.
Edit: I'm not sure how it's going among Asperger women but NT women love to talk about men's sizes and things like this like it makes an utterly important part of their inside "female talk" like conversation courses to gossip about men.


You seem like to have an apparent in depth knowlege about what women talk about “24/7” for someone women are apparently repulsed by. lmao, what an idiot.

Some do, but it’s not all the time and hardly “24/7” unless the woman is dumb and superficial. Might I add that a lot of men tend to enjoy objectifying women, just take a look in this forum for proof.

You are so grossly screwed up it’s alarming. Get help from a psychiatrist.



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05 Jan 2018, 1:34 am

Cronos all these women are gorgeous , far from average.
Their men aren’t bad either. And look to have good jobs based off dress. Fact they can afford to post(brag) in their local news papers also shows they have money.
Poor people can’t ford to wast money that way. Never known anyone to have their wedding announced and their pictures out in the news paper, so weird


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Yeah all the jobs I could have been good at that paid good are gone, outsourced over seas or automated.

Shame steroids are illegal :(

I dont know feminism as used media to shame people who reject fat women, at least in the USA they’ve made it so it’s ok to be fat. Theirs shows about fat women, and famous fat actresses and models.



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05 Jan 2018, 1:38 am

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Well apparently he was talking only about his exes who cheated on him, does that change your view?


Not really. The women who cheated on him ought to be ashamed of themselves, but the fact remains he has a habit of spewing sexist crap all over this forum. I don’t know one female who would put up with the stuff he says. I might show some of the posts here to my female friends and let you know the reactions.



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05 Jan 2018, 1:43 am

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And if you're honest with yourself, you'll admit you'd do the same thing. Given your choice of three hypothetical women, all other things being equal, you'd take the most beautiful or the richest over their poorer, plainer competition.
And wouldn't you like to be in that position?


You hit the nail on the head. Of course they would. Why would they give an average woman a chance if they can get a hot one, or one they’re more sexually attracted to?

They’re just hypocrites who are pissed off women won’t do what they wouldn’t.



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05 Jan 2018, 2:10 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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And if you're honest with yourself, you'll admit you'd do the same thing. Given your choice of three hypothetical women, all other things being equal, you'd take the most beautiful or the richest over their poorer, plainer competition.
And wouldn't you like to be in that position?


You hit the nail on the head. Of course they would. Why would they give an average woman a chance if they can get a hot one, or one they’re more sexually attracted to?

They’re just hypocrites who are pissed off women won’t do what they wouldn’t.

Because why would I go for the one who’s most sexually attractive to?
Too much pressure. I’ll always be worried she’ll lewve me, I’d rather have a pretty girl who is playful and I find attractive.
Are you saying you’d go for the most attrayguy?

Anyways we aren’t even talking about that though. In what reality are 3 people all the same but looks? Their personalities will all be different.

Would many women here date a unemployed ugly guy with a great personality? So many here say personality is all that matters.
I’m realistic, personality is most important but if I find them unattractive in the face it won’t matter. Likewise there’s been gorgeous women I wouldn’t date even if they were all over me trying to have sex with me, I’d push them off and run away, cause their personality is bad. I’ll admit most guys probably would pick the best looking one. And most guys would sleep with a hot woman they dislike. I wouldn’t though. Sex is emotional for me. Sure I might fantasize about women on reddit and sleeping with them when I, horny but in reality I wouldn’t not unless we connected emotionally. Otherwise I’ll be way way to anxious and turned off. Again I blame this on being raised by women. I know most guys don’t connect sex to emotions. It’s physically activity to them nothing more. I still feel hurt by the lady who tricked me and took my virginity 5 years later. I’d rather lost my virginity to someone who loves me and had emotional connection to.

So you misjudged me. If there was a hot woman and a average woman going after me I’d go for the average. Is average chubby or thin? My average is chubby :) but your average might be consider thin. Societies average is thin. I just wish a average woman would date me :(



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05 Jan 2018, 2:13 am

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Well apparently he was talking only about his exes who cheated on him, does that change your view?


Not really. The women who cheated on him ought to be ashamed of themselves, but the fact remains he has a habit of spewing sexist crap all over this forum. I don’t know one female who would put up with the stuff he says. I might show some of the posts here to my female friends and let you know the reactions.

I certainly do t like everything he says. And I don’t call women losers, garbage trash, low something . Few men here seem to look down on less educated or poor women. I don’t
I’d consider dating a homeless woman. I dont know how to meet one and I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t as I’m sure people would assume I’m just taking advantage of her for sexual stuff. Which I wouldn’t be but people would accuse me regardless. Same as when I talk about dating a 19-24 year old. The women people say I can date want nothing to do with me though.



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05 Jan 2018, 2:16 am

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Cronos all these women are gorgeous , far from average.
Their men aren’t bad either. And look to have good jobs based off dress. Fact they can afford to post(brag) in their local news papers also shows they have money.
Poor people can’t ford to wast money that way. Never known anyone to have their wedding announced and their pictures out in the news paper, so weird



Yeah the women are actually pretty good looking...like I said though, wedding photographers will try to post the best in their portfolios so it's not is only an approximation of the average couple. Also they are professional photographers and know the lighting, filters and lenses to use to make people look better than their best....they also do a good bit of post editing these days. But the guys are average and certainly not the models the OP thinks are getting all the women. People used to put wedding and engagement announcements in the news paper all the time. They weren't expensive. Most people hire wedding photographers. Some of them have good jobs. The others we don't really know but the average man is married and makes an average middle class income in the west.