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Would you date a fat woman?
Yes I love BBW 40%  40%  [ 14 ]
Yes I'm not interested in skinny women 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
No 46%  46%  [ 16 ]
Yes but only is she promised to slim 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 35

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06 Nov 2021, 4:10 pm

I'm not sure those examples negate anything I've said. Women's appearances are used to criticize them far more often and to outright invalidate their ideas.

Pointing out that people who are attracted to men prefer hot men isn't exactly a counterpoint.


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06 Nov 2021, 4:11 pm

But how is that not a counterpoint, if it's true that women prefer hot men?



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06 Nov 2021, 4:17 pm

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But how is that not a counterpoint, if it's true that women prefer hot men?


Because men still get valued more for other things, like intellect, ideas, etc.

It's not like men's appearances don't matter at all, it's just that society places less emphasis on it and the only way to frame it otherwise is to be completely ignorant of nuance and reduce it to a binary thing.


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06 Nov 2021, 4:17 pm

Well each gender is culturally (and probably evolutionary hardwired) biased in what matters most to them. A prioritized order of values. Explicit or Unconscious.

Female human beings are judged on their physical appearance, and then their other accomplishments.
Male human beings are judged on their material affluence, status, economic power. Then their looks.

But the pressure on Males to look good is catching up with woman's . Look at the explosion of bodybuilding gym culture.


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06 Nov 2021, 4:22 pm

I hope this means that line of argument that you've just conceded on won't be trotted out again in the future. :nerdy:


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06 Nov 2021, 5:13 pm

I'm gonna open a can of worms here~ I have noticed that when it comes to potential romantic partners, women get judged more for their physical appearance whereas men get judged more for their money & earning potential. I have also noticed that men get criticized more for admitting that they rejected a woman because of her weight than women will get criticized for admitting to rejecting a guy because of his financial situation. Perhaps some of this is because I'm from the deep south.


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06 Nov 2021, 5:13 pm

I thought that women value men's loosk higher than vice versa though, because women I know only go for goodlooking guys only, and men I know settle for lesser looking, more overweight, compared to what women will go for standards wise, in looks.



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06 Nov 2021, 5:20 pm

ironpony wrote:
I thought that women value men's loosk higher than vice versa though, because women I know only go for goodlooking guys only, and men I know settle for lesser looking, more overweight, compared to what women will go for standards wise, in looks.
I noticed your location says Canada so perhaps this is more of an US thing. There is a bit of pay inequality here between women & men. Some believe it is because women & men tend to perform different jobs & others believe that women tend to get paid less than men for the same job because women are thought to be worth less than men. I think it's a bit of both.


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06 Nov 2021, 5:37 pm

Oh I see. Well some people in Canada talk about a wage gap between genders, but whenever I see jobs to apply for, they only list one wage on it, and do not say it will be any different based on the gender applying though.



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06 Nov 2021, 5:43 pm

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Oh I see. Well some people in Canada talk about a wage gap between genders, but whenever I see jobs to apply for, they only list one wage on it, and do not say it will be any different based on the gender applying though.


You should try to better understand what the concept describes, this might help:
https://www.payequity.gov.on.ca/en/Lear ... fault.aspx


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06 Nov 2021, 5:48 pm

ironpony wrote:
I thought that women value men's loosk higher than vice versa though, because women I know only go for goodlooking guys only, and men I know settle for lesser looking, more overweight, compared to what women will go for standards wise, in looks.


True i see this also. I think it's because men are more needy, and will 'settle'. Woman are definitely more picky.


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06 Nov 2021, 6:00 pm

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ironpony wrote:
Oh I see. Well some people in Canada talk about a wage gap between genders, but whenever I see jobs to apply for, they only list one wage on it, and do not say it will be any different based on the gender applying though.


You should try to better understand what the concept describes, this might help:
https://www.payequity.gov.on.ca/en/Lear ... fault.aspx


Okay thanks, I will have a look :).



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06 Nov 2021, 6:01 pm

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ironpony wrote:
I thought that women value men's looks higher than vice versa though, because women I know only go for goodlooking guys only, and men I know settle for lesser looking, more overweight, compared to what women will go for standards wise, in looks.


True i see this also. I think it's because men are more needy, and will 'settle'. Woman are definitely more picky.


But if this is true, like with people I know, then why is there this stereotype that men are more about looks?



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06 Nov 2021, 6:05 pm

I don't know... maybe it's because sometimes cultural stereotypes are media propagated misconceptions and not totally in sync with everyday reality or underlying scientific fact of what human beings experience on a gut biological level. Could be that.


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06 Nov 2021, 6:06 pm

There is always some basis of truth in a stereotype.

There are men who use looks as a main criterium for selecting women.

The truth is that many men and women do not fulfill the stereotype.



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06 Nov 2021, 6:08 pm

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ironpony wrote:
I thought that women value men's loosk higher than vice versa though, because women I know only go for goodlooking guys only, and men I know settle for lesser looking, more overweight, compared to what women will go for standards wise, in looks.


True i see this also. I think it's because men are more needy, and will 'settle'. Woman are definitely more picky.
Could you please explain Needy. I've often heard guys complain about their girlfriends & wives not giving them enough space & time to themselves.


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