JimJohn wrote:
Where_am_I wrote:
DuckHairback wrote:
It almost seems like it would be a relief to certain guys if some of these rules about what women find attractive were 100% true, across the board.
Like they're desperate to be ruled out by something beyond their control. Something physical, determined by a freak combination of inherited genes. Not something they can be held responsible for.
Maybe because if that's not true then they have to start thinking about their personalities, their behaviour and their attitudes. Tough stuff to think about.
Most of the guys asking the question are average height or tall. A short guy is an expert on being short. He isn’t asking a question like that. That makes the discussion ironically superfluous.
It wasn't an attack on the OP. Or even about shortness specifically. I'm genuinely interested in the psychology of people who believe themselves to be unacceptable (probably because in some ways I share this psychology - it's a 'There, but for the grace of god, go I.' thing). Taking responsibility for your own s**t is truly hard work. And it's always nicer to be told that you're not the source of your own misery - hence the appeal of these online misogynist as*holes who will assure you of this for money.
But if you look through the L&D forums you'll see endless threads generalising about what women do and don't find attractive in men when all they'd have to do is go outside, sit in a busy street for half an hour and look at the men you see with women to learn there isn't a rulebook.
Men like this can give you a hundred reasons why they're unlucky with women: too short, too fat, too bald, big rubbery lips, flappy ears, hairy moles, no money, no car, no job, whatever. It's endless.
But they never seem to consider for a second their responsibility to be a person that a woman might want to spend some time with.
So I don't see the irony, or the superfluity, of the discussion.
I would think you could see the irony of the statement as I laid it out. As far as the word superfluous I could as easily used the word ingenuous. It was rather random. You seem to have built quite a narrative in your post. There are a few characters including trouble makers, misogynists, lazy people, non-stop complainers and charlatans. It is all good I guess. I assume it is all well intended. You did basically ask for an explanation. That is what I got for your unassailable position.