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07 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

Yes hating an ethnic group exists. It is called racism. Which I am not, and it has nothing to do with being disgusted by an extremely unhealthy person, anorexic or obese. Those people you mentioned are racists if they have Maori people for being Maori.

I'm done with this topic. I honestly don't believe there is a grain sense in Hyperlexian, i'm not sure about Halebop.

And I am not going to make the mistake of thinking your views are that of women or AS women in general.

Congrats you are strong independent females and very supporting of your opinions and willing to discuss things with me no-matter how ignorant, childish, and baseless mine are.

I can't win trying to argue with you.....but not because of logic, because you don't believe in it. This is honestly a waste of time.

Talking about you quote about lower totem pole guys. You really have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about. That was the just the most baseless ignorant thing I have heard anybody say in a long time.

Me trying to show you in so many ways how wrong you are, would be as pointless as describing the entire human history to walrus.
Edit: insults replaced with compliments by spongy rest of the sentence edited to make sense. Guess which :lol:

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07 Sep 2011, 10:04 pm

lightening020 wrote:

Neither do you for anything that you said. You are speaking from personal experience.

The difference being I don't claim it's anything other than personal experience.

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Try telling a lonely guy that experience "doesn't help", just because you have had bad experiences.

Try telling a woman who's been date raped that all "experience" helps.

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And yes do we need to make such a poll? On here on this board with the people that come here, I would bet money if I knew you in real life that yes there are more celibate men than women, and probably by a good percentage too.

You can "guess" all you want. Without actual data, your assertions are meaningless.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:06 pm

hyperlexian wrote:

Molecular_Biologist wrote:

Not true.

It is much harder to be at the bottom of the totem pole if you are a man rather than a woman.

That is because sucessful men (or bad boy PUA) tend to monopolize multiple women, while the less attractive men are left to do without.

When monogamy was enforced by patriarchal religious customs, this was not the case.

With the advent of the sexual revolution human mating paterns are reverting back toward more primitive social arrangements that mirror what occurs in primate populations (Alpha males have a harem of multiple females, while a much larger number of males are excluded entirely).

From: Is There Anything Good About Men?

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article that has no relevance

edit: fixed link

ummm first you speak of the problems with MODERN society, then give a source that references our ANCESTORS. if mating behaviours are, by your own admission, different today, then the problems are not the same and cannot be explained by our ancestry. nice try though.

it isn't harder for men at the bottom of the totem pole, unless you are talking purely about obtaining casual sex partners, and we are not.

Your attempt to distort what I said is telling of your lack of ability to argue your point.

I said mating behaviors are reverting back to their pre-historic norm that favors women over men.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:13 pm

lightening020 wrote:

a fat person isn't necessarily unhealthy. i think your repulsion for fat people prevents you from seeing that they are not all universlly unhealthy, unattractive, or unloveable.

(i ignored the rest of what you said. it's sort of univeral that when people run out of arguments they start throwing around insults. it's okay - i'm used to it. lilypadfad beat you to it though)

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07 Sep 2011, 10:22 pm

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i wonder bother giving you actual stats

Yet you expect me to do the same for you.

Offensiveness removed.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:26 pm

This was on the tv last night. Was awesome :heart:

http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/looking-full ... eo-4390751

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07 Sep 2011, 10:31 pm

lilypadfad wrote:

Yet you expect me to do the same for you.

i asked you 6 times and you refused. why would i respond by providing stats?

lilypadfad wrote:

We'll see about the cats then, if I were a betting man I'd place a wager on your being single in 10 years, forever this time. *sigh* Another victim of the modern world. I've also figured out what pissed you off so much and why your posts changed from a genuine attempt to converse to an elaborate shaming exercise with no real content. It wasn't the older women post, it was what I said before it.

wait, who is trying to do the shaming here? :lol:

lilypadfad wrote:

I describe the worst of womanhood scrounging and settling for the worst of manhood in her late 30s. I also described you. Heh. Doesn't really matter, I can't help your generation, my posts are not for you.

hahaha it isn't me, because i am neither desperate nor settling. i know that you think you can win an argument by attempting to insult me but you don't really know me at all so your attempts won't work.

i remember your post now, and i know it *was* tactical. but it was weak and ineffective. you showed your hand. you demonstrated that you were not actually inetrested in having an adult discussion about actual issues but instead wanted to upset me if you could. so i stepped it up. you have to get up earlier and all that to play with the big kids.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:31 pm

And a reminder to zen_mistress: Personal attacks are against the rules and if you see someone who might be a troll you have to contact a mod about it.

Edited by spongy.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:41 pm

Molecular_Biologist wrote:

Your attempt to distort what I said is telling of your lack of ability to argue your point.

I said mating behaviors are reverting back to their pre-historic norm that favors women over men.

actually, no, you didn't say that. you are adding conclusions after the fact.

women are not favoured in that scheme. sounds like maybe men were favoured, or certain men at least. aren't multiple partners all the rage?

there is no evidence that current mating is anything similar to prehistoric days. in fact, it seems very very different... what with people dating individuals they had not previously been acquainted with in extended tribal or clan units. i just read an article about how dating has completely changed since the 1950s (it was on another thread), and how at no point in humankind's past has dating ever looked like this.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:43 pm

EDIT: i shouldn't imply anyone is a troll. it's bad form at best. i wasn't directing it at anyone specifically but it is really unnecessary to get insulting.

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07 Sep 2011, 10:52 pm

[offensive image removed by spongy]
I was gonna ask....isn't there something in the WP rules about posts that are intended to "provoke, belittle, or insult other members?"

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07 Sep 2011, 11:35 pm

hyperlexian wrote:

it isn't harder for men at the bottom of the totem pole, unless you are talking purely about obtaining casual sex partners, and we are not.

Repeating the quote in case any of you missed it. Just shows how lacking in any sense someone can be.

This whole debate is rendered inane, when you have somebody who is this delusional.

I have made my points based on logic, and all you have come up with is non-sensical retorts twisting whatever I say. You fail to convince me on any of your points.

And now you want to call me a troll?

maybe you win because I just don't care anymore. With that one sentence, you have convinced me that you are not worth my time. You do not think rationally.

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07 Sep 2011, 11:52 pm

u know both gender bash each other equaly

its been going on since dawn of human kind

and honestly its getting old

the differences between the two genders arnt even as much as we tend to make them

women and men generaly go off first impressions and thats 80% looks and 15% attitude and 5% trace other elements

most men and women choose the easiest path to attract the other sex, (men being overconfitdent mean jerks)(women being submissive shallow sluts)

those who often strike out often close themselves off and blame the other sex for their lonelyness (and get no where for it)

those who dont take the easy path often find it hard in the relationship world

(men) its hard coming off as confitdent when every girl u meet rejects u simply for being ur shy self
(women) its hard expressing urself as being ur fed these ideas of what u need to be and look like

(most men) hate hearing how much women think we just want to get in a girls pants
(most women) hate coming off as shallow people for not being intrerested in a guy do to his low self-isteam/confitdence

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08 Sep 2011, 12:14 am

Zinnel wrote:

u know both gender bash each other equaly

its been going on since dawn of human kind

and honestly its getting old

the deferences between the two genders arnt even as much as we tend to make them

women and men generaly go off first impressions and thats 80% looks and 15% attitude and 5% trace other elements

most men and women choose the easiest path to attract the other sex, (men being overconfitdent mean jerks)(women being submissive shallow sluts)

those who often strike out often close themselves off and blame the other sex for their lonelyness (and get no where for it)

those who dont take the easy path often find it hard in the relationship world

(men) its hard coming off as confitdent when every girl u meet rejects u simply for being ur shy self
(women) its hard expressing urself as being ur fed these ideas of what u need to be and look like

(most men) hate hearing how much women think we just want to get in a girls pants
(most women) hate coming off as shallow people for not being intrerested in a guy do to his low self-isteam/confitdence

We are having a debate here. I still have yet to hear one convincing argument from any female member in this thread. This thread was about tactics used to shame men. Women have come on here attacking that, basically in a sense proving the OP correct.

Why doesn't the tactics used to shaming females have more replies? Why is this one so infinitely more controversial?

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08 Sep 2011, 12:19 am

lightening020 wrote:

Zinnel wrote:

Because that thread is simply a piss take of this one created by yours truly as a piss take.

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08 Sep 2011, 12:20 am

lightening020 wrote:

Zinnel wrote:

Actually, it turned into a debate on "who has it harder (again)."

So far, no convincing arguments from either side.

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