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24 Nov 2011, 3:38 pm

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Wow MR20. I'm blown away and hopefully you are too. You have really evoked a great deal of care and compassion from many people here. Take that as a testament to your ability to write and express yourself well.


Indeed, if a person can effectively evoke sympathy/support, he can certainly evoke the more positive emotions that lead to successful paths in life (Like, creating confidence in an employer that hiring him would be a good thing; or making other people happy; etc..). It's only the people that can't evoke anything or, more usually, the people who only evoke confirmation of their self-deprecation who find themselves in the worst pickle. I know if I were to create a pity thread, I wouldn't be too effective at getting any (Id' probably get more contempt than anything) but that's not stopping me from living life and making the best of it.



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24 Nov 2011, 4:09 pm

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What do you mean nobody can say anything positive except that you type well? I said that I looked at your photo and you are a good looking man.

You have to remember also that in a text medium, other than photo's, all we know of each other is typing.

Frances


Stop freaking lying for the love of god. I'm NOT GOOD LOOKING. I am hideously ugly. I knew I never should have posted my pic here, I just knew people would not be honest just to 'spare" (in their minds) my feelings.


I personally do not find your pictures to portray you as attractive. However that is probably because you look miserable.

I think that in person you could be average. But you are not "hideously ugly," as you put it. And that is irrelevant anyway as beauty is subjective. The more you know a person and care for them, the more attractive they are. And different people like different faces.

Now on to the other complaints you lay out. You say that you do not shower or change clothes regularly. And you say that you can not change those things. That is absurd. Personally I do not like to be around anyone with poor hygene. And the majority of people in the world agree with me. You can change that by developing a routine. People with aspergers do far better with routines than without. I am one of them. If I have nothing to do and no reason to leave my house I wont shower for a week. But all you need to do is set a time to wash clothes and shower. And then follow it, it could be hard for the first week but after it is set it becomes much easier.

As for the rest of your complaints. I do not feel sorry for you. I can empathize with you in certain ways but not all. You clearly are not a total moron considering you do not write like this. "i no poeple wont be honets on hear." You take time to use punctuation and try to spell correctly. So even if it takes some time I bet you would not be the worst person to have a conversation with. I see that you like anime, well so do a million lonely average to below average looking girls. Go to an anime forum or RPG. There are plenty free ones online. Maybe even try Second Life. In there looks do not matter at all since you can create a perfect looking person.

But none of what I said matters if you think like that. I mean if you are really dumb and ugly and have no social understanding or money. Then I mean why would anyone want to be with that person? A person with the outlook such as yours will never amount to anything and never will be happy. Your outlook is your problem. I suggest looking into some kind of therapy (which you can get for free if you look) or seeing a doctor about anti depression medication if you can.


No one. That's why I'm going be alone for the rest of my life



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24 Nov 2011, 4:15 pm

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What do you mean nobody can say anything positive except that you type well? I said that I looked at your photo and you are a good looking man.

You have to remember also that in a text medium, other than photo's, all we know of each other is typing.

Frances


Stop freaking lying for the love of god. I'm NOT GOOD LOOKING. I am hideously ugly. I knew I never should have posted my pic here, I just knew people would not be honest just to 'spare" (in their minds) my feelings.


I personally do not find your pictures to portray you as attractive. However that is probably because you look miserable.

I think that in person you could be average. But you are not "hideously ugly," as you put it. And that is irrelevant anyway as beauty is subjective. The more you know a person and care for them, the more attractive they are. And different people like different faces.

Now on to the other complaints you lay out. You say that you do not shower or change clothes regularly. And you say that you can not change those things. That is absurd. Personally I do not like to be around anyone with poor hygene. And the majority of people in the world agree with me. You can change that by developing a routine. People with aspergers do far better with routines than without. I am one of them. If I have nothing to do and no reason to leave my house I wont shower for a week. But all you need to do is set a time to wash clothes and shower. And then follow it, it could be hard for the first week but after it is set it becomes much easier.

As for the rest of your complaints. I do not feel sorry for you. I can empathize with you in certain ways but not all. You clearly are not a total moron considering you do not write like this. "i no poeple wont be honets on hear." You take time to use punctuation and try to spell correctly. So even if it takes some time I bet you would not be the worst person to have a conversation with. I see that you like anime, well so do a million lonely average to below average looking girls. Go to an anime forum or RPG. There are plenty free ones online. Maybe even try Second Life. In there looks do not matter at all since you can create a perfect looking person.

But none of what I said matters if you think like that. I mean if you are really dumb and ugly and have no social understanding or money. Then I mean why would anyone want to be with that person? A person with the outlook such as yours will never amount to anything and never will be happy. Your outlook is your problem. I suggest looking into some kind of therapy (which you can get for free if you look) or seeing a doctor about anti depression medication if you can.


No one. That's why I'm going be alone for the rest of my life


There is a post full of positivity, helpful remarks and tips and he just ignores those. Then he procceeds to pick a random sentence, take it out of context and make a remark about how hes going to be alone.

If he keeps going this way and doesn`t change s**t hes indeed gunna be alone for the rest of his life. People that always take things out of context and try to get pity are annoying as sh!t.


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24 Nov 2011, 4:35 pm

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Until you stop going off of your own assumptions and start using that small tank of common sense you have left in that brain (here i go venting, PIPEBOMB), and start fessing up to errors in your ways,


I've already acknowledged my "errors" I'm ugly, slow, uneducated stupid, un-charismatic, uninteresting, and irritating. I can't take care of myself, I can barely bathe myself, I can't drive, and I'm poor.

I'm just a good for nothing bum and I've always been that


you will never find a woman.

Obviously

You will never find happiness.

True


You will never be something

This is true also





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24 Nov 2011, 4:41 pm

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Even if the OP cannot find a girlfriend, it's not like it is the end of the world.

There are other things that can give you pleasure and meaning in life besides women and having sex all the time.


I don't even want sex. I would just like having a girl/women that cares about me, respects me, and has similar interests. Heck I'd settle for just real friends to hang out (male or female, they'd have to respect me and not talk down or treat me like s**t)

I'd like to go snowboarding, visit different states and countries, among other things.

Fat chance of any of that stuff happening though.



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24 Nov 2011, 4:43 pm

It's interesting that you always mention the fact you can't drive. Why is that so important? I can't drive, and I don't care about it.

But it's good that you have some dreams and goals, even if you claim you "know" they're unreachable. It's a step one, I think.



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24 Nov 2011, 4:48 pm

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The moment you accept yourself for who you are is the moment you will grow as a person and start to truly feel comfortable in your own skin.


I have already accepted myself for who I truly am.

I don't think I need to tell you how that's turned out and how I feel about myself.



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24 Nov 2011, 5:00 pm

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It's interesting that you always mention the fact you can't drive. Why is that so important? I can't drive, and I don't care about it.

But it's good that you have some dreams and goals, even if you claim you "know" they're unreachable. It's a step one, I think.


I thought it was something that comes natural to most people. I mean my uncle (who's a bit on the slow side and spent most of his school years in special ed) knows how to drive effectively.

I mean no one respects a 25 year old man that can't drive and doesn't own a car (among many other reasons)



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24 Nov 2011, 5:03 pm

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It's interesting that you always mention the fact you can't drive. Why is that so important? I can't drive, and I don't care about it.

But it's good that you have some dreams and goals, even if you claim you "know" they're unreachable. It's a step one, I think.


I thought it was something that comes natural to most people. I mean my uncle (who's a bit on the slow side and spent most of his school years in special ed) knows how to drive effectively.

I mean no one respects a 25 year old man that can't drive and doesn't own a car (among many other reasons)


My NT daughter is 18, doesn't know how to drive and scared to learn.

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24 Nov 2011, 5:26 pm

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I mean no one respects a 25 year old man that can't drive and doesn't own a car (among many other reasons)


My husband is 31, he can't drive and he doesn't own a car, and I respect him.



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24 Nov 2011, 7:23 pm

This does not pass the smell test. No pun intended. but if one of the reasons that people do not like you is that you do not groom or bathe, then groom and take a bath. If you are in a ghetto, then you are in a city, and public transportation is available. Also there are churches and religious institutions. Not all of them are of the true believing types, and I suspect that if you went to a few and asked for help, in exchange for --- say janitorial labor --- you would not be ignored. Certainly not all of them would ignore you.

I suspect, and this is just an opinion, that you are either a fraud (as others have pointed out, your grammar and spelling are above average), or you are one of those people who is not happy unless they are miserable. If I had to bet, I would bet the former. I could be wrong

I suppose that there are other options / reasons for your situation, but none come to my mind. You are probably not severely depressed or you would not be posting, so you may be mildly depressed. The best (fast and cheap) cure for that is to start a running program.


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24 Nov 2011, 11:24 pm

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I mean no one respects a 25 year old man that can't drive and doesn't own a car (among many other reasons)


25 year old men in London, New York, Paris, Chicago, Amsterdam etc. would have to disagree with that sentiment.

When you live in a city public transportation is the most convenient way to go.

And after you picked the one sentence and commented on it. Reading it wrong and ignoring the sentence after.

I feel that I think you are going about your problems like a child. Children for the most part can do nothing about their problems so they reject all solutions because they do not have problems such as not being able to pay rent. And because they know that they have parents or gaurdians to take care of them no matter what.

An adult doesn't have the possibility of never being able to change for problems. Adults change so that they can continue to take care of themselves and keep important relationships, or Make important relationships. Change is always possible. But feel free to dismiss this. I have a boyfriend and I am about to go to college after CHANGING. I was in a car crash that devastated me and led me to go to bed at 5 am and wake up around 3pm, not showering and never leaving the house because i didnt have a car. I dropped out of my senior year due to panic attacks. I went into school online and I only just finished my senior year in january. I should have graduated in 08. I lost any friends I had and was left almost all alone all day. My life was s**t and I had no prospects of a job other than at a gas station and I quit that after 2 weeks due to stress and because the job was not what I signed up for.

But I realized that the only way out was to CHANGE and actively search for a way out. I found a career and a school to get out into the world, that can train me, and I wont have to be out in the world on my own right away. The only way to make your life better is to change. Thats it, no magic solution just effort. I am no longer a child, complaining and not trying. I am an adult and taking care of my problems. I am so much happier.

Sorry for the rant. The OP probably wont get it but I wanted to try to show that change is possible and there is an example of change.



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24 Nov 2011, 11:56 pm

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I mean no one respects a 25 year old man that can't drive and doesn't own a car (among many other reasons)


25 year old men in London, New York, Paris, Chicago, Amsterdam etc. would have to disagree with that sentiment.

When you live in a city public transportation is the most convenient way to go.

And after you picked the one sentence and commented on it. Reading it wrong and ignoring the sentence after.

I feel that I think you are going about your problems like a child. Children for the most part can do nothing about their problems so they reject all solutions because they do not have problems such as not being able to pay rent. And because they know that they have parents or gaurdians to take care of them no matter what.

An adult doesn't have the possibility of never being able to change for problems. Adults change so that they can continue to take care of themselves and keep important relationships, or Make important relationships. Change is always possible. But feel free to dismiss this. I have a boyfriend and I am about to go to college after CHANGING. I was in a car crash that devastated me and led me to go to bed at 5 am and wake up around 3pm, not showering and never leaving the house because i didnt have a car. I dropped out of my senior year due to panic attacks. I went into school online and I only just finished my senior year in january. I should have graduated in 08. I lost any friends I had and was left almost all alone all day. My life was sh** and I had no prospects of a job other than at a gas station and I quit that after 2 weeks due to stress and because the job was not what I signed up for.

But I realized that the only way out was to CHANGE and actively search for a way out. I found a career and a school to get out into the world, that can train me, and I wont have to be out in the world on my own right away. The only way to make your life better is to change. Thats it, no magic solution just effort. I am no longer a child, complaining and not trying. I am an adult and taking care of my problems. I am so much happier.

Sorry for the rant. The OP probably wont get it but I wanted to try to show that change is possible and there is an example of change.


You're the one who's not getting it. I don't take kindly to people talking down to me.

I was born low functioning. I've spend my most of my school years in special ed. I could never get into college. I could barely pass 9th grade sped classes. I am nothing like you, stop comparing your situation to mine. I don't have the mental toughness and/or willpower that you people seem to have.

That's not to belittle you coming back from a car crash though, which is a pretty big feat.



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25 Nov 2011, 12:03 am

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This does not pass the smell test. No pun intended. but if one of the reasons that people do not like you is that you do not groom or bathe, then groom and take a bath. If you are in a ghetto, then you are in a city, and public transportation is available. Also there are churches and religious institutions. Not all of them are of the true believing types, and I suspect that if you went to a few and asked for help, in exchange for --- say janitorial labor --- you would not be ignored. Certainly not all of them would ignore you.

I suspect, and this is just an opinion, that you are either a fraud (as others have pointed out, your grammar and spelling are above average), or you are one of those people who is not happy unless they are miserable. If I had to bet, I would bet the former. I could be wrong

I suppose that there are other options / reasons for your situation, but none come to my mind. You are probably not severely depressed or you would not be posting, so you may be mildly depressed. The best (fast and cheap) cure for that is to start a running program.


If you think I'm a fraud you don't have to post in or read any my threads.

It's just that simple, no one's forcing you to do anything.



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25 Nov 2011, 12:21 am

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Now on to the other complaints you lay out. You say that you do not shower or change clothes regularly. And you say that you can not change those things. That is absurd. Personally I do not like to be around anyone with poor hygene. And the majority of people in the world agree with me. You can change that by developing a routine. People with aspergers do far better with routines than without. I am one of them. If I have nothing to do and no reason to leave my house I wont shower for a week. But all you need to do is set a time to wash clothes and shower.

See this is my problem. I have no friends, money, car, job, and I don't go to school. I have nowhere to be and no one to meet. I'm a hermit that spends most of every day in my room. I don't feel the need to shower and change clothes if I'm not going anywhere.



But none of what I said matters if you think like that. I mean if you are really dumb and ugly and have no social understanding or money. Then I mean why would anyone want to be with that person? A person with the outlook such as yours will never amount to anything and never will be happy. Your outlook is your problem. I suggest looking into some kind of therapy (which you can get for free if you look) or seeing a doctor about anti depression medication if you can.

But all of these things are true. I will never amount to anything (I haven't so far) I've never any real friends or dated. I haven't had so much as a phone number from a girl. I haven't accomplished anything worthwhile in my life. My outlooks isn't the problem. It's reality, what am i supposed to do, lie to myself? I am I a pathetic failure and a loser.




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25 Nov 2011, 1:19 am

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I mean no one respects a 25 year old man that can't drive and doesn't own a car (among many other reasons)


25 year old men in London, New York, Paris, Chicago, Amsterdam etc. would have to disagree with that sentiment.

When you live in a city public transportation is the most convenient way to go.

And after you picked the one sentence and commented on it. Reading it wrong and ignoring the sentence after.

I feel that I think you are going about your problems like a child. Children for the most part can do nothing about their problems so they reject all solutions because they do not have problems such as not being able to pay rent. And because they know that they have parents or gaurdians to take care of them no matter what.

An adult doesn't have the possibility of never being able to change for problems. Adults change so that they can continue to take care of themselves and keep important relationships, or Make important relationships. Change is always possible. But feel free to dismiss this. I have a boyfriend and I am about to go to college after CHANGING. I was in a car crash that devastated me and led me to go to bed at 5 am and wake up around 3pm, not showering and never leaving the house because i didnt have a car. I dropped out of my senior year due to panic attacks. I went into school online and I only just finished my senior year in january. I should have graduated in 08. I lost any friends I had and was left almost all alone all day. My life was sh** and I had no prospects of a job other than at a gas station and I quit that after 2 weeks due to stress and because the job was not what I signed up for.

But I realized that the only way out was to CHANGE and actively search for a way out. I found a career and a school to get out into the world, that can train me, and I wont have to be out in the world on my own right away. The only way to make your life better is to change. Thats it, no magic solution just effort. I am no longer a child, complaining and not trying. I am an adult and taking care of my problems. I am so much happier.

Sorry for the rant. The OP probably wont get it but I wanted to try to show that change is possible and there is an example of change.


You're the one who's not getting it. I don't take kindly to people talking down to me.

I was born low functioning. I've spend my most of my school years in special ed. I could never get into college. I could barely pass 9th grade sped classes. I am nothing like you, stop comparing your situation to mine. I don't have the mental toughness and/or willpower that you people seem to have.

That's not to belittle you coming back from a car crash though, which is a pretty big feat.


I was not speaking down to you. Sorry if it may seem that way but I was simply saying my observation of your situation. Which I still feel that you are acting like a child. I don't mean that as an insult but just as how I find similarities in your behaviour with how children feel about their problems. As in powerless and not feeling as if they could fix anything.

And I was not comparing myself to you. Quite honestly that would be wrong considering I am 21 and did something to fix it. I was simply stating a situation where there was a low and then through work and change someones life got better.

I doubt you are as low functioning as you say. If you were I doubt you would be able to explain your situation as well as you have. I am betting that your school system failed to help you at all and made you think of yourself as stupid.

But all in all I think you should just seek therapy, that helps out many people who are unhappy.