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Basically he's saying that the board has suffered an influx of fakers that are using the Asperger's term for their own devious ends.

How about you turn that frown upside down you frowny faced freak

A news reporter who I adore who's often on the road is so hot with her frowny face now she's doing breakfast TV she has that happy to be on drugs persona ,

I kinda think she's kinda revoliting now.

Whats wrong with frown

"Never a frown with Golden Brown..."

I'm glad you bought it up I didn't mind old Gordon he couldn't be any worse than The Blair$rich project could he I could just imagine that guy coming to your home selling vacuum cleaners his that creepy. Did he find those weapons?



I wouldn't have apologised to that women the Poles are all right they know how to fight they saved your bacon in th past and they'll save your economic bacon in the future, whats wrong with a polish plumber or cleaner ?



Some have asked on another thread if Gordon may be aspie ,

It sounds like you don't like him?

Hmm... well I would say it's definitely possible. Probably likely there'd be at least a few. Not sure how many though.

interesting idea. there have been a few fakers on the board (aka trolls), but i am not sure if that is what he means. i haven't seen any trolls specifically shaming or targeting males on the board, though.

there are sometimes misandric posts and threads occasionally, but that is not the same as someone pretending to be an aspie to manipulate people.

I could see this being very appealing to some types of people, especially as aspies are not know for their manipulation radar.

well, we do have trolls. but i haven't seen any examples of man-hating trolls manipulating men, or whatever it is that he is implying. it's kind of a strange implication to make.

Yeah, that's not exactly what I was thinking of.

what were you thinking of?

Well, perhaps I have been over-sensitised recently. (Well, okay, I have.) But I am getting pretty sick of men imputing devious, perverse or contradictory motives to women. The simplest policy, with all people, giving you the least chance of messing up, is to speak the truth and believe what you're told.

If she says she's not interested, why TF would she want to be pursued by him??? He should just assume if she says she's not interested, she's not interested, and back off.

If he is genuinely not sure whether she means it or not, and still cares even though it just got complicated, he should ask her and give her the chance to clarify. (Then give her the time she needs to figure it out.)

The only even remotely possible safe exception to taking her literally, without running that check, would be if their masses of shared background knowledge and history makes it plain this is a multi-textured or context-specific statement whose ironical intent is well understood by them both. But that last one is still dangerous and it's much better to ask if there is any doubt at all.

Dropping someone 'like a stone' is brutal and can hurt someone intensely. Therefore, it is not something to be relied upon, I would say, unless gentler methods have failed or there is a genuine emergency demanding instant withdrawal.

Fair enough.



In general this works with most women and especially with Aspie women. However, some women enjoy playing hard to get. In the extreme end like a couple of women I've had the displeasure of knowing, this can manifest itself in playing mental tricks on fellas and trying to mess with their heads.

If a woman tells me they're not interested, that's the end of it for me. Don't get upset if I never bring up the subject again. Sometimes women (the aforementioned ones who like teasing men) get very upset when men do exactly what they've been told and take their leave because actually they fancy them and they're playing hard to get to see if they will dance to their tune. This can work if both parties know what's going on but with Aspie men it can backfire.

Most of the time and with most women, though, the straightforward approach works best. Indeed, I always use it.

Having said that there are a lot of guys who can be letchy and have harrassing-like qualities as well as being in people's faces, so it's not an anti-women point at all.



Because some women play 'hard to get' because they're trying to 'test' a potential partner. Head games like this hack me right off and I won't play along. Also, some women are just nutcases.



Indeed. Which is why I favour the stone-dropping approach (at least to that subject) depending on the situation.



Again, some women will tell a guy different (and sometimes contradictory) things depending on her mood, or a little less maliciously is simply testing her man for reactions.



Depends on the situation and the person.

Hey, guys. To me this feels really creepy. It's usually claimed that WP welcomes undiagnosed highly-likely aspies. Comments like this basically make anyone without a DX feel under suspicion. I ask myself nearly every day if I've made this up. I don't need your encouragement to spontaneously suspect my motives or blame myself for just about anything after a lifetime of punishment for things I didn't know I had done wrong, generalised confusion and that deep sort of social isolation that is belied by the ability to pass temporarily as NT. Where I live, an aspie DX is virtually impossible to come by for a grown woman who has become quite adept at reproducing superficial social responses - even if she could, after a series of stillborn career attempts, afford to throw away the small fortune required for an assessment.

So, you see, there are legitimate reasons people cannot 'prove' their credentials. It doesn't mean they are fakes. I was so relieved to find this WP place, somewhere I could come to feel safe and not an outsider. This sort of random sling does not help at all.

Before anyone complains: no, I don't believe I have gone off-topic. All sorts of harassment are creepy. 'Are you really who/what you say you are?' = suspicion = makesfeelbad = creepy.

BTW, paradoxically, I don't believe all my failures make me a failure. Quite the reverse, actually, because I keep on coming back and I almost never lose hope and I keep on trying new ideas to make life work just that little bit better. I just don't like being made to feel guilty/uncomfortable in what feels like a homeplace. So give us a break, eh? Accept people at their own summation. It won't hurt or cost you to do that, but it might help take a bit of pressure off people like me, caught in the cracks. Thanks.

In regards to the "people faking a DX here to manipulate folks" thing, can anyone explain to me the "why" of this? Does you specifically mean the love and dating boards? What would be the end goal of that?

The only thing that makes sense to me is a possibly a cry for attention. Another board I post at(CBR) had a spate of male folks pretending to be females who were lesbians/a transgendered person/ rape victims/etc apparently in attempts to get attention. But those things were all outside the norm of posters on the site. Claiming to be on the spectrum on a forum full of such folk doesn't really lend itself much to standing out, I would venture.

Ah, reading back further provides more insight.

Ok, so the assumption on the table is that there are women(or men posing as women) pretending to be on the spectrum in order to lead on and then humiliate males on the spectrum?

Has there been a validated case of that occurring here previously?

Yes. Exactly that.

The only other reason I can think of for faking it would be if it supported someone in gaining a DX - perhaps to gain some special workplace considerations. Hmm, actually, I can think of a few more. Government disability income support or ... how about social cachet, if, as I hear, it's quite a big Hollywood thing at the moment? I suppose hanging out here could help them 'learn how to act aspie' or something like that.

Even so, I would have thought few people would come at it backwards like that: surely it would usually be their existing NT-life deficits that drew them to a site like WP, where they are not deficits at all, rather than the hypothetical existence of a specific neurological status being the first point of attraction to then work backwards into a life. (oops, a bit dense maybe) To put it another way, wouldn't it just be hard work, and pretty exhausting, and ultimately unsustainable, pretending to be aspie if you're not ... a bit like AS pretending to be NT?

Anyway, aspie or no, I intend to take people at face value unless they prove to be wrong'uns, and would hope the same in return.