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20 Apr 2012, 5:35 pm

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also, that article isn't proof of who is getting selected. proof of that can be found by looking at which people are reproducing.

More proof can be found in the fact that attractive girls are almost always taken.

fat women are attractive too, so i am not sure what you are saying with that.

I've already explained why they're not. "Fat" doesn't mean muffin tops, wide hips or being slightly chubby; it means "obese". Obesity makes a woman less fertile, thus making her less attractive. Likewise, anorectic girls are commonly seen as less attractive by men.

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20 Apr 2012, 5:43 pm

actually, you haven't explained anything at all, because your own "proof" disproves your theory.

first of all, fat women can have the same hip/waist ratio as thin women, so they can be considered just as attractive.

second of all... they are having sex and reproducing, which is further proof that they are attractive. natural selection is proving this.

so... your claims are not really making much sense. it seems that you would like to believe that obese and overweight women are less attractive, but the fact is that they are not somehow excluded from the gene pool.

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20 Apr 2012, 5:52 pm

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Nobody is excluded from the gene pool per se, there's always someone who's desperate, men who are fat themselves or men who are willing to settle. However, some carry more desireable genetics than others. The fact that women close to their ideal body fat levels are rated the highest, proves that Darwin was (mostly) right about humans as well.

Fat women are never hourglass shaped, though; they're either apple or pear shaped.

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20 Apr 2012, 5:55 pm

no, people don't have to settle to have sex with fat women. i guess you just can't envision a world in which obese people are sought after... but they can be. and some people just don't care. there is more to attraction than body type.

and no, you are wrong.... fat people can be hourglass shaped. it doesn't make any sense to suggest otherwise.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:01 pm

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I've never seen a fat woman who was genuinely hourglass shaped. There's the slightly chubby kind, though.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:03 pm

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I've never seen a fat woman who was genuinely hourglass shaped. There's the slightly chubby kind, though.

i think you are not looking closely enough.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:08 pm

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It is a choice, I've never said otherwise, But it's not a choice which I can control. I cannot just magically make myself find black girls or Hispanic girls attractive. Beyond the fact that I find them PHYSICALLY unappealing, I also have less of a chance of having anything in common with them due to totally dissimilar upbringings and cultures.

I find mulatto girls extremely beautiful.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:14 pm

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I find mulatto girls extremely beautiful.

There are plenty of them here, would you like to swap places with me?

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20 Apr 2012, 6:21 pm

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I find mulatto girls extremely beautiful.

There are plenty of them here, would you like to swap places with me?

That would be nice.

Biracial girls are often prettier than uniracial ones.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:25 pm

If only our respective governments would allow such a swap. Alas and alack they do not allow such things.

This is just more proof that people are born, not just out of time, but also on the wrong continents.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:28 pm

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Since when did basic things such as Gender, Skin Colour, weight, age range, and religious preference become "Picky". Altering my view on any of these things would require me to effectively change who I am. I would have to adopt a different culture, or adopt a religion which I don't believe in, or in the case of obese people, overcome my gag reflex. These things aren't being "Picky".

Picky would be me saying I'd only date a girl who ate cauliflower on thursdays and who only liked going to the movies on sunday afternoons.

And yet, according to you, your selection criteria are so strict that only a tiny fraction of people meet them. Whether or not the criteria themselves are considered by you to be picky, when they, in combination, result in a severely-limited dating pool, NO, you've no "right" to feel bitter or irritated, because it's YOU who refuse to date anyone else.

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As far as I'm concerned, I'm a victim of circumstance. I didn't choose to be born where I am at, I didn't choose for my parents to pick to move here, I didn't do any of this, and I'm sure as hell "Not going to make the best of it".

You choose who you're willing to date. End of. If you're not going to make the best of it, then don't whine about your lack of prospects.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:34 pm

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Obesity makes a woman less fertile, thus making her less attractive. Likewise, anorectic girls are commonly seen as less attractive by men.

You need to stop repeating this-
according to links YOU'VE posted, the majority of even obese women are still fertile, and "less attractive" is a far cry from inspiring "gag reflexes".

You're factually in error. It's the underweight (and not even by BMI) who have more problems reproducing, not the severely overweight.
Less fertile > no ovulation whatsoever, from an evolutionary viewpoint.

Seriously. You've already derailed one thread by continuing to post non-facts as facts, and pretending that they are relevant to the discussion even if true.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:35 pm

Kurgan wrote:

Fat women are never hourglass shaped, though; they're either apple or pear shaped.

I was hourglass shaped at 215 lbs, thanks. My tummy was completely flat.

Try again, maybe?

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20 Apr 2012, 6:37 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

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Fat women are never hourglass shaped, though; they're either apple or pear shaped.

I was hourglass shaped at 215 lbs, thanks. My tummy was completely flat.

Try again, maybe?

Pics or it didn't happen. A flat stomach doesn't always mean hourglass shaped.

That being said, if your tummy was flat at 215 lbs, then you're more muscular than most female bodybuilders.

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20 Apr 2012, 6:40 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

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Obesity makes a woman less fertile, thus making her less attractive. Likewise, anorectic girls are commonly seen as less attractive by men.

All women ovulating aren't equally fertile. Science has proven MANY TIMES that obese women are LESS FERTILE not INFERTILE. Less fertile is still undesireable to the Darwinian mindsets of every man.

A woman is at her most fertile when she is not obese or underweight. The ideal body fat level means that she is neither; this is why it is called "ideal".

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20 Apr 2012, 6:40 pm

Kurgan wrote:

ValentineWiggin wrote:

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Fat women are never hourglass shaped, though; they're either apple or pear shaped.

I was hourglass shaped at 215 lbs, thanks. My tummy was completely flat.

Try again, maybe?

Pics or it didn't happen. A flat stomach doesn't always mean hourglass shaped.

That being said, if your tummy was flat at 215 lbs, then you're more muscular than most female bodybuilders.

ROFL unbelievable when you're so committed to your skewed view of reality you can't fathom that people are BIOLOGICALLY-VARIED.

Nope. Not muscular at all. I just gain weight in my hips and breasts, and not my stomach.

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