The reason why LJBF hurts

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Not really, no.

It could be compared to "God bless you!" meaning "You just sneezed!"

No, because GBY is an expression; LJBF is a lie. It's still comparable to stories parents make up when a pet dies as most guys still fall for it.

Thats just because you are focused on that and its the only thing you want to see.

Youd be quite surprised if you truly did some research on the field with an open mind instead of just making assumptions about something you havent even bothered to research on.

LJBF is an expression. It is not a "lie" any more than athiests can't say "God bless you".

What's it "an expression" of, if not, ya know, a desire to remain friends?

Expressing that implies THAT'S WHAT SOMEONE WANTS.
Expressing religious sentiment implies SOMEONE IS RELIGIOUS.

How is either anything other than misleading, at best?

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"God bless you" doesn't waste anyone's time or give anyone false hopes. Saying "let's be friends" is again like lying to kids about pet loss or like telling someone that if they paint your house, they'll get 10,000 dollars.

Does anyone ever owe anyone else a sexual relationship? If you're going to put a duty on others, in this case a duty for unattached people to take care of random other people's sexual needs, then to be fair, you have to put it on yourself as well. As well as everyone else (including, for instance, your mom). Me, I don't see women either individually or collectively having any duty to provide me with sex, ever. Just as I don't recognize any duty to provide it either. It's all a matter of individual choice, and I'm kind of attached to my own right of free choice, and, if I am fair, I have to recognize it for everyone else, too. The right that I see for myself is that I get to choose who I'm willing to have sex with without being obligated to explain my choices, so that's the right I recognize for others.

As far as friendship. My friends are people that I like to do things with. If you have male friends, why not female friends? No penis, no friend? If I met someone that likes to brew up loads of coffee and stay up really late smoking cigarrettes and other things while playing Rise and Decline of the Third Reich til early morning, there is no way I'm going to say, "Oh, yeah, that would be lots of fun, but you're a girl, sorry". They're not cursed with bad juju or anything.

Personally I think it's just healthy to have a few female friends. I don't have any at the moment but I used to. They have a different perspective on life that can be useful, and of course, you can learn quite a lot about women from them.

I'd say if you develop feelings for a friend, you should just tell them, and if they tell you to get lost, so be it.

Agree with Ancalagon here, sounds pretty hot to me.

I agree. If someone doesn't like you that way, what's so hard about "N.O."?

Right, because genitalia is the only difference between men and women.

I've met one woman in my entire life I could stand, and she was a married college professor.

1. I don't have to many male friends but that has nothing to do with their genitalia.

2. The only guy that I get along with most is my brother.

3. I rather hang out with girls and have girls as friends because I have more in common with them then I do my own gender.

Right.
I'm the opposite of a male lesbian.
Coming here, to WP, was the first time I caught glimpse of women who were remotely like me,
who didn't hedge or preface when they said something, and were extremely non-conformist.

Ha guess the turn male lesbian would be a good way to desrcibe me. Their are a few guys on WP that are like me but I have more in common with the girls on WP.

Didn't say it was the only difference. Are all your friends exact copies of one another?

but if someone intends to share an emotional exchange with you, they DO want to be friends.

somehow, in this thread you have said that:

1. when women say LJBF they DON'T want to be friends
2. when women say LJBF they want to rely on you emotionally, as friends DO

you can't have it both ways, as the two situations are mutually exclusive. it's almost like you are manipulating your statements to paint women in a negative light, even when it makes no logical sense.

that makes sense. i think that she was trying to say that "emotional tampon" implies a couple of things. first of all, the phrase implies that it's women who do that to men (hence using the word tampon and not a gender-neutral absorbent item that could be equally descriptive like "bandage" or "sponge").

also, discussion of tampons in front of some men can lead to an expression of revulsion because presumably it is gross to certain men. many men will not have sex with a female when she is menstruating, which adds to the idea that it is something icky.

so the idea of taking a feminine product and attaching it to a phrase that some men use about women (not often the reverse, which i don't understand as the situation can go either way), marks it as a sort of misogynistic statement.

i would not say people who use the phrase are misogynistic by default, because i think people don't really consider it that closely. i mean, we use phrases all the time without thinking about what the phrases really represent.

You implied it, when you suggested possessing this or that genital part is what informs people's aversion to attempting to form friends with females (and defined womanhood as lacking a penis in the process. How cute.)

In my friends being non-existent, yes, they are "exact copies". xD
Of the people I date or get on with as acquaintances online, yes, they are all of an extremely similar archetype.

Of course, you're really drawing a false dichotomy- there are far more options for one's friend pool than "exact copies" and extremely different.

Lastly,
I didn't (originally) say that I preferred an extremely homogenous circle of friends,
merely that I've never been desirous of interaction with one group.