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23 May 2013, 12:39 pm

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Then what she did was unreasonable threatening to call the cops. I've only ever done that when an ex harassed me for months after the breakup including having other people call me at 7 am on his phone and not tell me who they were at first and then say they were calling for him. I finally messaged him on Facebook telling him Ohio law classes the first time you contact someone after they tell you to stop (inclhding via a third party) as misdemeanor telecommunications harassment and each time afterward is a felony, and to not respond to the message befause Facebook notifies you when people have read them.


She didn't do anything wrong. He admits to being a jerk and judging by the multiple threads and statements he's made about this and other women I have a few ideas of how that came across. She threatened to call the cops to get him to stop with his harrassing behavior and it worked. Good for her....... The only way it would have been out of line is if she actually did call the cops after he stopped. If he hadn't stopped after the threat she would be more than justified to call in the popo.



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23 May 2013, 12:55 pm

Wow this thread got off track very quickly.



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23 May 2013, 1:03 pm

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23 May 2013, 1:18 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
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Then what she did was unreasonable threatening to call the cops. I've only ever done that when an ex harassed me for months after the breakup including having other people call me at 7 am on his phone and not tell me who they were at first and then say they were calling for him. I finally messaged him on Facebook telling him Ohio law classes the first time you contact someone after they tell you to stop (inclhding via a third party) as misdemeanor telecommunications harassment and each time afterward is a felony, and to not respond to the message befause Facebook notifies you when people have read them.


She didn't do anything wrong. He admits to being a jerk and judging by the multiple threads and statements he's made about this and other women I have a few ideas of how that came across. She threatened to call the cops to get him to stop with his harrassing behavior and it worked. Good for her....... The only way it would have been out of line is if she actually did call the cops after he stopped. If he hadn't stopped after the threat she would be more than justified to call in the popo.


I haven't seen his other threads.



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23 May 2013, 1:33 pm

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I just continued to text" I am waiting" and ".............." . I never made any threat on her life or property.
Here is a link to the legislation:
State of Michigan

She gave me her number, and prior to the bit about the police, she said nothing in terms of wanting me to stop. So it was consented, unless she said something, which she did not. In terms of mental distress, I never threatened her life, or done anything that a reasonable person would consider life threatening. And as far as consent, she never explicitly said no, and thus implied consent by continuing . Regardless, I admit I was being a dick. But here is the thing: where can I find a decent chick, or at least a F'buddy? I have been trying hard, but I am at the end of my rope. All the girls at college are taken (honestly, that is the only reason I went), and I am trying to keep busy.

On the subject of the discussion of the actually response, I was surprised at the number of replies. And as far as the picture, that was from a few years ago, and I wear glasses and have different cut.


You should have just said "Are you going to show up, yes or no?" Much more alpha than "I'm waiting" and "........." Or after like a half hour just say "I got stuff to do, I'm going home, bye."

As far as finding decent girls, you probably will not find one with your attitude of "at least a f**k buddy" and generally wanting to be a whoremonger because you want to release your animalistic sexual impulses at something. Like attracts like.



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23 May 2013, 1:47 pm

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I just continued to text" I am waiting" and ".............." . I never made any threat on her life or property.
Here is a link to the legislation:
State of Michigan

She gave me her number, and prior to the bit about the police, she said nothing in terms of wanting me to stop. So it was consented, unless she said something, which she did not. In terms of mental distress, I never threatened her life, or done anything that a reasonable person would consider life threatening. And as far as consent, she never explicitly said no, and thus implied consent by continuing . Regardless, I admit I was being a dick. But here is the thing: where can I find a decent chick, or at least a F'buddy? I have been trying hard, but I am at the end of my rope. All the girls at college are taken (honestly, that is the only reason I went), and I am trying to keep busy.

On the subject of the discussion of the actually response, I was surprised at the number of replies. And as far as the picture, that was from a few years ago, and I wear glasses and have different cut.


You should have just said "Are you going to show up, yes or no?" Much more alpha than "I'm waiting" and "........." Or after like a half hour just say "I got stuff to do, I'm going home, bye."

As far as finding decent girls, you probably will not find one with your attitude of "at least a f**k buddy" and generally wanting to be a whoremonger because you want to release your animalistic sexual impulses at something. Like attracts like.


Still, it hardly seems like harassment, like what people were assuming earlier on in the thread.



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23 May 2013, 1:58 pm

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I haven't seen his other threads.
He has plenty of gems just on the front page of L&D fantasizing about harems and ranting about the "slu*ty b*****s" that have the nerve to turn him into a misogonyst cause they won't let him tap it. He's on a roll.........



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23 May 2013, 2:12 pm

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I just continued to text" I am waiting" and ".............." . I never made any threat on her life or property.
Here is a link to the legislation:
State of Michigan

She gave me her number, and prior to the bit about the police, she said nothing in terms of wanting me to stop. So it was consented, unless she said something, which she did not. In terms of mental distress, I never threatened her life, or done anything that a reasonable person would consider life threatening. And as far as consent, she never explicitly said no, and thus implied consent by continuing . Regardless, I admit I was being a dick. But here is the thing: where can I find a decent chick, or at least a F'buddy? I have been trying hard, but I am at the end of my rope. All the girls at college are taken (honestly, that is the only reason I went), and I am trying to keep busy.

On the subject of the discussion of the actually response, I was surprised at the number of replies. And as far as the picture, that was from a few years ago, and I wear glasses and have different cut.


You should have just said "Are you going to show up, yes or no?" Much more alpha than "I'm waiting" and "........." Or after like a half hour just say "I got stuff to do, I'm going home, bye."

As far as finding decent girls, you probably will not find one with your attitude of "at least a f**k buddy" and generally wanting to be a whoremonger because you want to release your animalistic sexual impulses at something. Like attracts like.


Still, it hardly seems like harassment, like what people were assuming earlier on in the thread.


Oh, it's not and that girl seems like a passive aggressive b***h anyway. If she didn't like him, then she should have not given her his number, and if she didn't want to be contacted, she could have just said "yeah I don't really like you and don't wanna talk to you and I don't wanna go out with you anywhere." Then if he kept bothering her after that, or threatened her, then maybe she should have said she was going to call the police. I hate how society in general is seeming to reward passive aggressiveness.

Also going with the feminism thing, it's absurd how she threatened to sick another man on him for simply being annoying. She didn't even have balls enough to just say "no, don't wanna talk to you, don't text me anymore." She has to underly it with a threat. There was absolutely nothing threatening about the OP's behavior, and this girl responds back with threats for him simply being annoying.

But OP, though, do take to heart what I said. You cannot think with your penis.



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23 May 2013, 7:15 pm

OP, I still see that it hasn't gotten into your head yet that what you did seemed to scare her. I would advise putting this behind you now and stop thinking about what some piece of paper called "legislation" says and just move on now. Take with you the lesson that you ask once when being flaked and wait and see how things play out. I also realize that any piece of advice likely won't work for you right now and that you will likely be more open to this thread and the advice given if you come back later with clear mind.



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23 May 2013, 7:31 pm

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I just continued to text" I am waiting" and ".............." .


How many times?
At best, that type of behaviour is really, really, annoying. It makes you look like a demanding child.


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23 May 2013, 8:24 pm

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There was this one girl. In the end, I got totally obsessed and started freaking out and losing my mind.

There was this girl I liked. At the time my dating/relationship experience was a big fat zero even though I was in my early-mid 20s already. Hers was too, and she was my same age. I worked up the nerve to ask her out, she said yes, we went on a couple dates and she strung me along for a couple months (she had issues of her own) and began to dither while I began to plan the wedding in my head. She told me it was over, but in an ambiguous way with hints that it could start back up once she'd had her breathing room, which kept me on the hook for many months more. (I later discovered she didn't mean it, she was just trying to be nice.) I proceeded to lose my sh**.

At a certain point my dad told me to forget she existed or else harassment charges might be in the cards. He was very concerned for me. I'm glad my dad was there to watch out for me. God only knows how much more headfricked I would have gotten. I mean, I never would have harmed her or turned into a stalker or anything, but still. It could have gotten uglier than it did. I was totally out of my head.

I mean, I take all the blame for how it played out, but here's the takeaway: if you're going to dump an Aspie, do it in no uncertain terms.


That's how I got rejected the first time, only I never thought about marrying her. It took me 3 months to figure out on my own that I had been rejected, and I felt like s**t



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23 May 2013, 8:28 pm

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According to the law, the person must state they want an end to the conversation or action before it becomes illegal. The only thing she said was she was calling the police. She never said stop. Otherwise I would humbly complied. I understand I was being aggressive, but i was in a bad mood (my chat body seemed like she might have been a scammer, which made me angry, in addition to some other issues). Normally I wouldn't do this, but I am just tired of getting all flakes. Where are some decent women?


That definitely sounds like harassment. Where are all the decent women? Maybe doing whatever they want, with people who don't harass them. No one owes you their time, even if they've offered it. You do not have the right to make someone feel threatened because they flaked on you. You do not have the right to someone's time.

Regardless of the hyper-misogynists here who will tell you she was a big bad monster and you're just a poor little guy being mistreated by some wicked woman, you do not, I repeat you DO NOT ever have the right to make someone feel threatened because they aren't complying with your demands.

Learn some respect for women,(AND EVERYONE, REALLY) then maybe you can expect the same in return. And I'm sure it would be shocking as sh** to everyone here, but respecting people often DOES garner the same in return.


So if a guy can't read your mind when you want him to go away, he's threatening you and harassing you?



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23 May 2013, 9:14 pm

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zacb wrote:
According to the law, the person must state they want an end to the conversation or action before it becomes illegal. The only thing she said was she was calling the police. She never said stop. Otherwise I would humbly complied. I understand I was being aggressive, but i was in a bad mood (my chat body seemed like she might have been a scammer, which made me angry, in addition to some other issues). Normally I wouldn't do this, but I am just tired of getting all flakes. Where are some decent women?


That definitely sounds like harassment. Where are all the decent women? Maybe doing whatever they want, with people who don't harass them. No one owes you their time, even if they've offered it. You do not have the right to make someone feel threatened because they flaked on you. You do not have the right to someone's time.

Regardless of the hyper-misogynists here who will tell you she was a big bad monster and you're just a poor little guy being mistreated by some wicked woman, you do not, I repeat you DO NOT ever have the right to make someone feel threatened because they aren't complying with your demands.

Learn some respect for women,(AND EVERYONE, REALLY) then maybe you can expect the same in return. And I'm sure it would be shocking as sh** to everyone here, but respecting people often DOES garner the same in return.


So if a guy can't read your mind when you want him to go away, he's threatening you and harassing you?


It's not about mind reading. It's about having respect for other people. Not bombarding them with messages. When they act like they want you to go away, then go away. Being obsessive, insistent, and stalking them is going to freak them out. Actually, it freaks me out, too, and I don't really have to worry about rape. Some dudes in this generation have a scary sense of entitlement, which also leads to freaky behavior. So just stop. You're not entitled to anything, and acting like you are is going to scare people off. It scares me off when women act like they are entitled to something, too.

I know these things can be hard for someone with Asperger's, but then it's probably a good idea to learn these things before trying to date. That's why I did not date until I was 22.



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23 May 2013, 10:12 pm

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zacb wrote:
According to the law, the person must state they want an end to the conversation or action before it becomes illegal. The only thing she said was she was calling the police. She never said stop. Otherwise I would humbly complied. I understand I was being aggressive, but i was in a bad mood (my chat body seemed like she might have been a scammer, which made me angry, in addition to some other issues). Normally I wouldn't do this, but I am just tired of getting all flakes. Where are some decent women?


That definitely sounds like harassment. Where are all the decent women? Maybe doing whatever they want, with people who don't harass them. No one owes you their time, even if they've offered it. You do not have the right to make someone feel threatened because they flaked on you. You do not have the right to someone's time.

Regardless of the hyper-misogynists here who will tell you she was a big bad monster and you're just a poor little guy being mistreated by some wicked woman, you do not, I repeat you DO NOT ever have the right to make someone feel threatened because they aren't complying with your demands.

Learn some respect for women,(AND EVERYONE, REALLY) then maybe you can expect the same in return. And I'm sure it would be shocking as sh** to everyone here, but respecting people often DOES garner the same in return.



So if a guy can't read your mind when you want him to go away, he's threatening you and harassing you?


If it comes down to me contacting the police, you can bet it's over threatening behavior, including harassment.


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23 May 2013, 10:34 pm

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OP, I still see that it hasn't gotten into your head yet that what you did seemed to scare her. I would advise putting this behind you now and stop thinking about what some piece of paper called "legislation" says and just move on now. Take with you the lesson that you ask once when being flaked and wait and see how things play out. I also realize that any piece of advice likely won't work for you right now and that you will likely be more open to this thread and the advice given if you come back later with clear mind.


I could understand how it might concern her a tad, and she might start worrying if I might go apeshit. And in all honesty, I am not the fondest of legislation (agorist), but just like the Mafia, you have to respect it, or it could eat you like a shark. I understand what I did was a tad bit extreme, but I tend to lash out (albeit not to the point of doing anything truly awful) and blame anyone in my way. I have been trying to get out of my shell, and it has been miserable.

Now as far as my greatest "hit", listen. I try and be mr. nice guy, do the right thing, shut up, never speak my mind, and where does it get me? Respect or anything? Maybe just a little from superiors. And so why should I care about this or that?

Now in terms of relationships, I am starting to believe "love" in the traditional sense of the word, at least for me. I am not trying to be a debbie downer, but in between my luck and my friends luck (he had some idiot GF cheat on him), I am skeptical of "traditional" love. And almost anytime I approach a girl, I am rebuffed. I am trying to build my social circle, but I have no social circle. I am sorry, I hate where I live. It seems whatever I tried to do here is F*cked. And so anyone that I could be with would be fine with me. I know that sound creepy, but I feel kind of cast aside, and I just want someone to care. But it seems like I can't find anyone, and I am extremely frustrated. I just want to know what it is like to feel like I can actually relate to someone besides myself (since I bounce most my ideas off myself). I just feel like I will never find anyone and thus I am willing to explore alternative lifestyles.



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24 May 2013, 12:04 am

zacb wrote:
aspiemike wrote:
OP, I still see that it hasn't gotten into your head yet that what you did seemed to scare her. I would advise putting this behind you now and stop thinking about what some piece of paper called "legislation" says and just move on now. Take with you the lesson that you ask once when being flaked and wait and see how things play out. I also realize that any piece of advice likely won't work for you right now and that you will likely be more open to this thread and the advice given if you come back later with clear mind.


I could understand how it might concern her a tad, and she might start worrying if I might go apeshit. And in all honesty, I am not the fondest of legislation (agorist), but just like the Mafia, you have to respect it, or it could eat you like a shark. I understand what I did was a tad bit extreme, but I tend to lash out (albeit not to the point of doing anything truly awful) and blame anyone in my way. I have been trying to get out of my shell, and it has been miserable.

Now as far as my greatest "hit", listen. I try and be mr. nice guy, do the right thing, shut up, never speak my mind, and where does it get me? Respect or anything? Maybe just a little from superiors. And so why should I care about this or that?

Now in terms of relationships, I am starting to believe "love" in the traditional sense of the word, at least for me. I am not trying to be a debbie downer, but in between my luck and my friends luck (he had some idiot GF cheat on him), I am skeptical of "traditional" love. And almost anytime I approach a girl, I am rebuffed. I am trying to build my social circle, but I have no social circle. I am sorry, I hate where I live. It seems whatever I tried to do here is F*cked. And so anyone that I could be with would be fine with me. I know that sound creepy, but I feel kind of cast aside, and I just want someone to care. But it seems like I can't find anyone, and I am extremely frustrated. I just want to know what it is like to feel like I can actually relate to someone besides myself (since I bounce most my ideas off myself). I just feel like I will never find anyone and thus I am willing to explore alternative lifestyles.


Came upon this a while ago in a very similar thread. It's very relevant........
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/ ... less.shtml