Imagine a 30 year old male dating a 19 year old female...

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17 Apr 2019, 6:39 pm

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She's not saying you're a pedophile. I guess she's not into older men.

I don't believe you dating a 19-year-old should be considered anything to be judged. I just don't believe it's really that big a deal.

She seems to be comparing men who date younger women to it though :/

And yet it clearly is judged


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17 Apr 2019, 6:40 pm

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The rule I've heard is half your age plus seven. Because algebra is involved in dating now.

Now it’s your age exactly or older but since the older has to date their age or older you can’t date them.
Though this might just apply to men as I’ve never heard anything bad about a 30 old woman dating a 18 old man for example


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17 Apr 2019, 7:40 pm

Even these days, it is most frequent for the man to be older than the woman.



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17 Apr 2019, 9:09 pm

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An if no one your age is close to your maturity and refuses to date you you should what reject younger women Abe be alone forever?

Are you comparing dating younger adult women to pedophiles ?

Here a lot of 19 old women have kids. Some have multiple kids.


K yeah so not what I was saying. A 19 year old isnt a child. I was just saying the maturity rule doesnt always apply. And that it shouldnt really be how you decide who to or not to date. I kinda feel like theres other more important factors. But thats just me. Also it isnt just older men with younger women. Older women with younger men feels mostly the same. Although Im not a huge fan of the whole 'MILF' thing which is why its probably looked at differently by society. And yeah societys gonna judge. (its what they do best!) Its just not the norm for most people. Plus, studies show the wider the age gap the more likely a divorce would happen.

Again, 19 year old parents are the norm. Yes, Im generalizing but whatever thats why theres such thing as an average. And Ive already addressed why maybe this particular site might get different answers than usual. Nothing against anyone, but yall have mentioned a lot of you think you mature slower than NTs.
Besides, even Id honestly be ok with dating someone at a slightly different maturity level than me. I mean, so long as they arent acting like a middle schooler than Im ok with a little above or below my own. Cause hey, on one hand they might bring out my own playful, youthful side more. And on the other, they might help me grow in maturity myself.

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Even these days, it is most frequent for the man to be older than the woman.


Yeah its kinda a girl thing. Or well teen girl thing at least. Years of camp have taught me that. Most teen girls have a list and 'taller' and 'older' are usually on it. Its like a thing.

But ya know whats important is how you feel when you're with someone, not how many years separate you. And everyone is allowed to have their own opinions and preferences. So, whatever floats your goat I guess. :mrgreen:


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17 Apr 2019, 9:10 pm

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Keep in mind, just because some 19 year olds are in college and still able to get away with basically being kids/students for a few more years, other 19 year olds already have a preschool age kid and have been working full-time for a year or two and would basically view me as 'the kid' (lives at home with parents, wastes money on toys and time/energy on making music for himself, has no career) who would be outgrown in a year or two. (not a reference to my ex, she was a student and pretty immature for that matter, even compared to other 19 year olds, or me (but not me at 19 >.>)


I know thats kinda the problem with generalization. But I dont think 19 year old parents are the norm.

I think maturity is a big thing. But I think its best to find someone close to you in maturity and in age. Just because I can sometimes act like a 12 year old, doesnt mean I should date a 12 year old. Ya know?


Well, not in this society... but maybe if they're heir in line to become God-Emperor. Image

As for young parents, it depends on your community and society.


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17 Apr 2019, 9:12 pm

dating yes. sex no.



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17 Apr 2019, 9:22 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
dating yes. sex no.


Doesnt dating typically come with sex?


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17 Apr 2019, 9:57 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
dating yes. sex no.

So they can date and get married but never have sex their whole lives unless they cheat?


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17 Apr 2019, 10:11 pm

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Doesnt dating typically come with sex?
Typically, yes. But I'm at a point in life where the idea of having sex disgusts me. This includes most forms of foreplay and even nudity. I'd sell my soul to date without sex. Fully-clothed French kissing and fondling is fine if I'm really drunk, and only if I'm really drunk, but that's the maximum I'm comfortable with. Sadly, most women my age won't stand for it; they'll demand sex from me. :( Well, at least today, I have a plausible excuse: the antidepressant I take wiped out whatever was left of my libido.



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17 Apr 2019, 10:40 pm

Sex is definitely NOT necessary in a dating relationship.



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17 Apr 2019, 10:45 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Sex is definitely NOT necessary in a dating relationship.


Seconded.


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17 Apr 2019, 11:48 pm

Disagree


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18 Apr 2019, 5:24 am

It’s always nice when sex is part of the package. And it has been on many occasions.

But I’ve also been in dating relationships where there was affection....but no sex. And I felt okay with it. She just wanted to wait a little bit.



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18 Apr 2019, 7:40 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
graceksjp wrote:
Doesnt dating typically come with sex?
Typically, yes. But I'm at a point in life where the idea of having sex disgusts me. This includes most forms of foreplay and even nudity. I'd sell my soul to date without sex. Fully-clothed French kissing and fondling is fine if I'm really drunk, and only if I'm really drunk, but that's the maximum I'm comfortable with. Sadly, most women my age won't stand for it; they'll demand sex from me. :( Well, at least today, I have a plausible excuse: the antidepressant I take wiped out whatever was left of my libido.

I thought your new antidepressant fixed that problem and made you extra “frisky “?



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19 Apr 2019, 8:28 am

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I thought your new antidepressant fixed that problem and made you extra “frisky “?
Not quite. Effexor actually lowers your libido as a side effect. My doctor warned me; I told him I didn't care. As a result, I can talk to attractive women, flirt with them, and hug them, and yet feel nothing sexually. On that note, I noticed that women seem more comfortable hugging me and dancing with me than they did before I went on Effexor. Although, my aversion to everything beyond hugs started back in 2017, when my friends moved in with their girlfriends and started living like prison inmates, with the only differences being sex with a woman and better food.

In the nightclub incident, it wasn't even sex; it was just French kissing and a little extra. Fully clothed, in public view on the dance floor, all while I was drunk as a skunk. Not only that, the woman didn't demand a relationship from me afterwards. Which made me feel "safe" with her. I'm sure she just got giddy from the nightclub atmosphere, and wanted to fool around a little with a man she found attractive (me). That felt like a bigger compliment than anything else I can think of, and I'm sure it counteracted some of Effexor's libido-killing effects. (As opposed to her demanding a relationship with me, along with the prison-like drudgery that comes with it, because we kissed.)



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19 Apr 2019, 7:46 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Sex is definitely NOT necessary in a dating relationship.

If it's only dating and the relationship hasn't progressed to exclusivity then it's not necessary, nor is it necessary if both parties don't want to have sex, but in an exclusive relationship, if one party wants to have sex and the other doesn't, that's a big problem from the get-go, and if both parties want to have sex then there's nothing stopping them.