The irrational standards women have toward men

Post Reply New Topic

You’re a decent dude. Annoying at times, but underneath you’re alright.
Try not to beat yourself up too much. I can’t see you never getting anyone, so I wouldn’t give up hope.

I wasn’t talking about you personally, just generic guys in general. There will always be exceptions to the rule.

In my view, most women are pretty, where as most men are plain looking. With a tiny few being handsome like movie actors. But like 95% of women the world over are gorgeous. And 5% are unattractive, so if I can’t dste attractive ones and won’t date unattractive ones, where’s thst leave me? I’ve been told over and over not to go for pretty women.

Wedding photographers is expensive too. They like what $30 and hour or more. My brother just had family take pictures.

But we aren’t average men then. So point is invalid unless you can find millions of married poverty class men. Good to know I’m not average. So What’s below average men? Losers right? Worthless trash losers only good for serving average and rich people.

That’s so weird, if I got married I wouldn’t even want to share I on Facebook I like my privacy

I’m certainly aware that most guys are @***les who see women as sexual objects. Most guys for example shared their sexual experiences in detail about heir gf or wife. They brag to each other like it’s a trophy trying to one up each other. Oh yeah well ____ Gave me a bj in public, I can beat that ____ let me do Annal etc. even at work of all places.

Besides not wanting to know about what they do with their partners I find it a violation of trust. I’d never share such things. Even here I try not to give too much detail about the stuff I did with those women. I’d be horrified if I had a gf and found out she talks to her friends about our sex life, that said I know most women do, but I don’t want to know for sure if she does. I wish she wouldn’t. I find it disgusting.

Men will also see a woman and be like I’d love to play her bongos, or I’d love to ride her butt( but they don’t say butt) I find this disturbing i dont know what to say so I try to ignore it or walk away. Apprerently young women now talk openly similarly saying stuff like did love to suck his penis(but not penis) . The guys and 18 year old girl all call me naive in my gaming group. The sexual things they talk about make me uncomfortable.
She’s well, sometimes so so freaking cute the things she says or does, I find her attractive(never seen her) then next min the most sexually disturbing thing comes out of her mouth and I’m like ewwwwwww. I wouldn’t dste her to be honest. She’s too mature? For me. She also calls annoying things autistic which upsets me. Like if a game does something weird she’s like omg god it’s f***king autistic
I’m sure she’ll make some guy happy one day though. A lot of guys will enjoy her digusting sexual talk. I hope other silly playful cute women don’t talk about that stuff.

Anyways the guys all talk about it too sexual activities, things I won’t repeat here, and wish they didn’t explain to Me. And then there’s the near or naked photos of women they share. Why is it nearly all guys send them? I don’t ask for them I don’t want them, look I like naked women, but when I want it I’ll go to Reddit where women share their own pictures willingly and enjoy doing it, I don’t want pictures f random women who may not wanted them shared. But most guys do it. Like guys I hardly know in Facebook randomly send me pictures and like check out the pair on this one. I had a coworker send me some. 0.0 like um how do I reply to thst? I added them for contact purposes for work.

So most guys are pigs. I don’t deny that. I don’t and never have fit in with most guys. Making it hard to find male friends. Oh another thing strip clubs. I’ve had a bunch of guys try to take me to them. I don’t desir to go to strip club espially not with another man. Ewww. Do women go to stri clubs together? Aren’t stri clubs disrespectful to women?

There’s more trust me. Men even friends are cruel to each other. They always teased me for being a virgin and never having a gf. I can only say thank god they never tried to set me up with a hooker.

Most guys aren’t pigs. Some of them are, and you learn to have nothing to do with them with experience. Nowadays I only have to deal with pigs when I’m forced to, or choose to on this forum out of amusement.

Beta Pigs love to congregate on the internet as is the only place they feel they’re worth anything.

Alpha pigs are just dicks in real life and in general.

You and most guys on WP are not like this.

Last edited by hale_bopp on 05 Jan 2018, 2:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

Ahhh... hale_bopp, predictable as always. Thread wouldn't be complete without you giving me a good smack on my head.

But you are preaching to the choir, I know full well most women wouldn't like what I say on this forum, that's why I never talk about it irl. All the females in my class all really like me, and think I am a good and kind person, that's because I understand where not to go. In my opinion, women value politeness much, much more than men on average.

I remember the thing that pushed you over the edge, which was when I made a very distasteful comment about fat women, which was in response to you saying all poor/unemployed men are losers.
You're not exactly a beacon of empathy yourself, and men who have any kind of value in your eyes, would not find your comments very attractive either.

Those real life women clearly have no idea who you actually are, so I feel sorry for them. Yeah I’m probably unattractive, but I’m pretty open about it. I’ll be a dick in real life to people I think deserve it, rather than fake politeness then rip them to shreds behind their back. I’m not a “nice” person, I’m not sweet and sympathetic about every man and his dog, but I will always be good to and support people unless they prove themselves to not be worth knowing.

Men who have value in my eyes tend to agree with me about self proclaimed nice guys. They don’t go out and get pissed and objectify other people. They aren’t weak people. There are plenty around.

The disabled guy was born this way and he works at the reception in the local gym for 5 years now and he has no intention to move up a bit. Well chefs make good money comparing to minimum wage but it's still not 6 figure and they live at the staff accomodation where I live. Countryside in the UK.
My brother met his girlfriend via friends.

I'm just saying that money is not everything, if you are able to connect with that woman, you can get a girlfriend.
Or another example. I used to work in a small factory where one of my colleagues was a ginger guy, quite ugly to be honest but he was intelligent and he knew women, he knew how to talk to them. His girlfriend was gorgeous. His theory was the most guys would be scared to approach beautiful women, "she is out of my league, she will be mean etc" but he went to talk to them as he knew they would be dying for some attention from a normal guy who doesn't only want to f**k her.
And no, he wasn't well off, he worked with me on the assembly line.

My example. If I could pick I would go for a Swedish, blonde, blue eyed viking looking guy. I ended up with a bold, 1 inch shorter than me, chubby guy. Why? He was charming, he made me feel like I found my soulmate! OK, he turned out to be a narc at the end but anyway. I hope you get my point.
Feeling sorry for yourself and blaming women will not help.

^ Did you end up cannibalising him?

Hale Bopp Nooo but I was thinking of it.
Oh those photos about the couples, as you guys said, they are wedding photos. Make up, perfect light, perfect angle, trust me those women don't look like that when they wake up in the morning. Anyway...

And Sly, I don't know you, what's possible for you or whatnot but have you ever thought about teaching English abroad? Somewhere in Asia or South America?
Normally they give you ok salary, accomodation, helping with everything and normally those countries are desperate for native speaker teachers. Sometimes they even pay for the flight.
Also as it would get you out of your comfort zone, yeah big time, it would help to build confidence. Another thing to consider that in a foreign country your quirks can be easily passed as "He's a foreigner, that's why he acts odd sometimes"
Just think about it, don't immediately come up with reasons why you can't do it.

You're wrong, it's not like these gender debates on WP is the only thing I care about.. And it's not like one has to disclose every last detail about themselves to not be fake, I don't tell my classmates about my bowel movements either. You're also misinterpretting quite a bit here, I'm not a "nice guy™", I don't go out of my way to be fake and kiss people's ass, I'm not afraid of arguements, but I just steer clear of certain topics.. There's nothing strong, and definitely nothing smart about burning all your bridges just for the sake of it. A strong person also needs to know when to shut the hell up.

I just think you're a giant hypocrite, there is no group which society has less sympathy for than poor men, and you somehow feel justified sh*****g on them when you feel like it, yet act outraged by one or two comments about bad eating habits...

These are not average couples but financially well stable ones who can afford to have professional photographers which costs like 5000 dollars/wedding. I'm not going to argue about that a stock marketing broker with average looks can find a girl who looks better than him but it's not the standard and it's well known that women tend to settle down for marriage after they're already overused by other men who had one night stands, love based relationships with them before they started to look the financial aspects to settle down with a "beta man" who likely provide them a good life which costs him money leaving aside other consequences like the court system which highly advance women and it often ends up with a financial cut off leaving men broken by cutting of 50% of their assets after they divorce.

UK. should have lead with there way different the. USA. I here similar from other uk or European women. But not from American women. Sweet leaf is the only American woman I can think of thst dates a poor guy. The rest want upper middle class guys like most American women. From the sounds of it I’d had better luck if born in Europe with women. You’re all less impacted by western superficialalty it seems. With how fat Americans are you’d think we’d be more accepting of fat guys, but we’re actually less accepting. Mean over half Americans are obese. Something like 65-70% I believe. 70.2 with 73.7% of males being obese and 66% of women are obese. Aka fat. Yet America super fat shames men. With 73% of men fat wouldn’t it become the norm? Mean thin men are the minority lol making them the odd ones :p

British women seem more accepting of loser men, shame I’m not British.
In ameriac chefs are paid well and don’t live in group homes. They have nice houses. It’s a stressful hard long hour job I don’t envy it.

I can be charming if women actually talk to me. They don’t though. I’m not good enough in their view to talk to them. Which is awful feeling. Makes me feel subhuman.

Neither will not venting about it. Nothing will help. I’m in a hopeless situation been in it since birth. I just didn’t know it. I reached my peak this is the Best I’ll ever bee. There’s no well paid job in my future. I’m permanently disabled. I’ll always bee poor and and
Ow paid man. Which to American women isn’t a real man as they’ve told me over and over,.

To be fair, men can be just as irrational with their standards towards women, rare though those individuals may or may not be. Believe it or not, I can assure you that there are men out there who wouldn't date anything less than a supermodel. This isn't a one-sided issue.

Lol. I have poor grammar, bad spelling and a speech impediment I’d be the worse English teacher ever lol. They’d probably mistake me for a student :p
Half the people I meet think I’m an immigrant from the uk :p

For sure but they are fewer then women with high standards. Most men would love s supermodel but they settle for a chubby girl if it means they get sex. For most men any sex is better then no sex waiting for sex with a super model.
Most guys like actresses like Megan Fox. But they settle for other women.
A lot of American women will remain single holding out for that perfect guy who meets all their list of requirements, like a guy who dies from dehydration with a drinking fountain in front of him cause water isn’t good enough for him he only drinks expensive tea.

What’s the saying? You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
Such women ignore thousands of good men saying there’s no men to date and want people to feel sad for them. I use to but not anymore, in my area there’s 3,000 more men then women. It’s impossible for there to be no men for a woman to date impossible. It’s quite true there’s 3,000 men who don’t have women to date, though half the women refuse to date and pretend we don’t exits so it’s actually a lot of men who don’t habe women to date. So I really don’t feel sorry for those women anymore then I’d feel sorry for the guy dying of thrist after rejecting my glass of tap water. Is that wrong?

Yeah she already defined average as upper middle class income. Which isn’t what me or anyone I know would consider an average joe. I always saw average people as poor or working class. I’ve neber heard middle class or upper middle class consider themselves average.

I dont know about the rest of what you said thoug. About beta males and such, lots of women do have fun with the bad hot guys before settling down with the steady guy when their older and want kids though I use to be told that growing up. That not to worry their have their fun then want to settle down with a guy like you(imaging I’d be sucessful). Um yeah I get to be some woman’s boring last resort guy how’s that anything to look forward to, just made me depressed. I won’t date after 35 because of this. I won’t be some woman’s last choice who she doesn’t really love and doesn’t want to have fun with cause she had all her fun and wild sexual experiences with other men already and telling young men this is awful, it tells them from the start thst they worthless to women besides reliability. Men want to be women’s Porsche not their vokeswagon bettle or Honda. I really hope I die before 35.

And be honest women, you wouldn’t want to be some guys last resort either, the ugly one he settles for cause you won’t cheat but he had tons of hot attractive women before you. No one wants thst. And people shouldn’t do thst to huamans. Either go be with one of your younger partners or stay single. Don’t use some person who you’d never dated when you were younger. It’s not fair to thst person. I loved never date a woman who I don’t find attractive or like just to be with a stable person like that.