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09 Feb 2019, 2:34 pm

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I had a soulmate.....

Or did you just find a compatible person.

Do people who marry the. Their spouse dies after 20 years and then remarry for another 20 years just get two soulmates?



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09 Feb 2019, 2:36 pm

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Or the right person does exist----and you will be proven to be incorrect.

That’s just a fantasy


He's right, actually. :D

You do have a soulmate out there.

Soulmates are a made up idea by marketing team.
Only humans who have value are datable those who aren’t spend their lives alone until they die only being used for services.


The concept of soulmates predates marketing teams, Sweetheart.

Everyone is designed to be with their counterpart.

Why do you feel as though you have no value?

Captilsim has existed since Beginning of time.

I’m not apparently

Because most everyone says I are including most people on wp, social media and people at work.
I’m only good enough to be a servant to women.



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09 Feb 2019, 3:20 pm

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ha man I feel you, kinda in the same boat as you are. Haven't been with a girl for a year and a half. A friend asked me "how can I cope" I think he was more refering to the lack of sex aspect of it but honestly right now I care more for just the companionship over casual sex.. like you, to feel loved by a siginificant other and not being partner-less.

My view is that it's right down to luck. Sadly nowdays the the (almost) only way to get to know girls is through apps which is a double edged sword. I would have prefered if this wasn't the case, non of the relationships I had so far were through apps but through RL (ie the old analog way) I hope the next one too


Well they're not limited to meeting either of us through some iPhone gimmick.


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09 Feb 2019, 3:33 pm

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I wouldn't want you to be distraught at not being able to find consolation through others. You sound, from reading your posts, like someone with a first rate intellect; it's the lot of such people to be alone in life - "it's lonely at the top" as the saying goes. This applies to all superior people, but particularly those superior on an intellectual score. I can assure you, from what little personal experience I have, that most people aren't worth getting to know, in either a romantic/sexual capacity or a Platonic one. Humans are generally cruel and irrational, but when the sex instinct is involved, this is doubled. I can only advise that you learn to tolerate loneliness. This is rich of me to say, as someone who loves being alone and always has done, but I believe that the spirit can, as it were, overcome the flesh (I mean that in a completely secular, materialistic way). The need for others - particularly when that need is sexual in nature - is an ugly, maladaptive vestige of our primitive state and better left behind. We're told that we can't argue with nature and that, among other things, the sex instinct cannot be eradicated, but I don't believe in fate; I think everything psychological can be changed with willpower.



I understand and sympathise with what you say, but one of my favorite quotes says "what imperative does a gray box to interact with another gray box?" diversity, intimacy and sharing can all be extremely stressful and scary but they are also fun and add value to our lives. I wouldn't rule them out entirely. I wouldn't, also, depend on them as that can cause you to quickly be more vulnerable. It is hard to find a balance.


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09 Feb 2019, 3:36 pm

I'd rather be driven mad by loving someone than be driven mad by nothing whatsoever.


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09 Feb 2019, 3:45 pm

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There's no such thing as soul mates. There's just varying levels of compatibility with other people. If there were soul mates, nobody would die alone after having spent their whole life alone, which happens. This idea that there's soul mates just stems from spiritual people's wishful thinking.


Maybe there are such things as soul mates, but two soul mates live their whole lives without ever meeting.

That said, I agree. It's nice if two people are happily in love and want to call each other soul mates, but there's no guarantee of finding such happiness in life. TRUTH.



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09 Feb 2019, 3:53 pm

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There's no such thing as soul mates. There's just varying levels of compatibility with other people. If there were soul mates, nobody would die alone after having spent their whole life alone, which happens. This idea that there's soul mates just stems from spiritual people's wishful thinking.

Perhaps you should just think of it as a word to describe it when two people get along famously.


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09 Feb 2019, 4:06 pm

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ha man I feel you, kinda in the same boat as you are. Haven't been with a girl for a year and a half. A friend asked me "how can I cope" I think he was more refering to the lack of sex aspect of it but honestly right now I care more for just the companionship over casual sex.. like you, to feel loved by a siginificant other and not being partner-less.

My view is that it's right down to luck. Sadly nowdays the the (almost) only way to get to know girls is through apps which is a double edged sword. I would have prefered if this wasn't the case, non of the relationships I had so far were through apps but through RL (ie the old analog way) I hope the next one too


Well they're not limited to meeting either of us through some iPhone gimmick.


True but not so relevant as nowadays it's not like in the old times where people actually used to communicate more. Heck people don't even call as much anymore (so you don't hear a voice) they just text on Whatsapp and instant chats, a lot of the charm is lost. more activity revolving around screens, movies, thus less chance to actually talk and get to know. Add to that there's a general global tendency of seclusion in society. Fact is more couples meet on these apps/sites than ever before and that number just keeps increasing in relation to meetups achieved in "the old fashioned way".



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09 Feb 2019, 6:47 pm

I guess I'm probably more concerned with counterculture than society. :colors:


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09 Feb 2019, 8:57 pm

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The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
There's no such thing as soul mates. There's just varying levels of compatibility with other people. If there were soul mates, nobody would die alone after having spent their whole life alone, which happens. This idea that there's soul mates just stems from spiritual people's wishful thinking.


Maybe there are such things as soul mates, but two soul mates live their whole lives without ever meeting.

That said, I agree. It's nice if two people are happily in love and want to call each other soul mates, but there's no guarantee of finding such happiness in life. TRUTH.


I concur. The existence of something isn't going to guarantee it to be had.

BUT the idea of soulmates is a spiritual one. If someone doesn't have any spiritual beliefs then for them the idea of a soulmate is going to be non existent. (even if the reality may be that they have one) It's fine for someone to not think they are a real thing but I have to reject the idea that they are merely wishful thinking.

I suppose the question to be asked would be "What do you think a soulmate is?" Personally I think there is more than one kind.

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Because most everyone says I are including most people on wp, social media and people at work.
I’m only good enough to be a servant to women.


Ever hear of a self fulfilling prophecy? Other's do NOT get to define our worth. We have to define it for ourselves. How can we expect to be worth anything to others if we don't even value ourselves? Sure there's some very kind souls out there that will pull see and pull the goodness from someone but that sadly isn't a norm. Most people will reflect back your own feelings of your worth back at you.


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09 Feb 2019, 9:35 pm

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ha man I feel you, kinda in the same boat as you are. Haven't been with a girl for a year and a half. A friend asked me "how can I cope" I think he was more refering to the lack of sex aspect of it but honestly right now I care more for just the companionship over casual sex.. like you, to feel loved by a siginificant other and not being partner-less.

My view is that it's right down to luck. Sadly nowdays the the (almost) only way to get to know girls is through apps which is a double edged sword. I would have prefered if this wasn't the case, non of the relationships I had so far were through apps but through RL (ie the old analog way) I hope the next one too


Well they're not limited to meeting either of us through some iPhone gimmick.

iPhone gimmick?



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09 Feb 2019, 9:49 pm

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ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
There's no such thing as soul mates. There's just varying levels of compatibility with other people. If there were soul mates, nobody would die alone after having spent their whole life alone, which happens. This idea that there's soul mates just stems from spiritual people's wishful thinking.


Maybe there are such things as soul mates, but two soul mates live their whole lives without ever meeting.

That said, I agree. It's nice if two people are happily in love and want to call each other soul mates, but there's no guarantee of finding such happiness in life. TRUTH.


I concur. The existence of something isn't going to guarantee it to be had.

BUT the idea of soulmates is a spiritual one. If someone doesn't have any spiritual beliefs then for them the idea of a soulmate is going to be non existent. (even if the reality may be that they have one) It's fine for someone to not think they are a real thing but I have to reject the idea that they are merely wishful thinking.

I suppose the question to be asked would be "What do you think a soulmate is?" Personally I think there is more than one kind.

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Because most everyone says I are including most people on wp, social media and people at work.
I’m only good enough to be a servant to women.


Ever hear of a self fulfilling prophecy? Other's do NOT get to define our worth. We have to define it for ourselves. How can we expect to be worth anything to others if we don't even value ourselves? Sure there's some very kind souls out there that will pull see and pull the goodness from someone but that sadly isn't a norm. Most people will reflect back your own feelings of your worth back at you.


You can have a stick and to you it’s valuable but to everyone else it’s a worthless stick. One day you need to sell your stick is it valued? Who will pay for it since they consider it worthless ? Value is based off what others think has value nothing less.
Gold and money has value cause others say it does. A single person thinking something doesn’t make it true . Or if I thought I could fly I would. Thinking I can’t fly isn’t self fulfilling prophecy as I can’t fly that’s just reality.
Likewise if everyone else thinks I’m worthless and useless it does t matter that I think I’m the king of England cause I’m not.
Doctors call it delusional.
It’s delusional to think I’m handsome and worthy if no woman thinks that. Delusions aren’t healthy. I could see someone who thinks they’re worthy when others say they are as eventfully harboring hatred to them like why won’t they love them as they’re worthy of it so something must be wrong with them.

It also leads to pain and hurt. Being rejected over and over. I’m not attractive, I don’t have a real job, I don’t uave enough money, I meet most if not all women’s red flags for those so I’ll never be considered worthy to them. What good would lying to myself and deluding myself into thinking otherwise do?

I’m disabled, I’ll never be normal, I’ll never have a good enough job to outwaiegh my unattractivness, never make enough to pay for the things most women want and others here say is normal to want and this normal to not want a guy like me.
There no house or car in my futur, no 401k, no retirement, no vacations to Europe, etc.

Would you want to date a guy who has no future who at 30 is worse off then a high school guy? Or a guy who can contribute to buying a 4 bedroom house, card, college for kids, kids, etc. being what is considered normal for society.



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09 Feb 2019, 11:08 pm

sly279 wrote:
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ha man I feel you, kinda in the same boat as you are. Haven't been with a girl for a year and a half. A friend asked me "how can I cope" I think he was more refering to the lack of sex aspect of it but honestly right now I care more for just the companionship over casual sex.. like you, to feel loved by a siginificant other and not being partner-less.

My view is that it's right down to luck. Sadly nowdays the the (almost) only way to get to know girls is through apps which is a double edged sword. I would have prefered if this wasn't the case, non of the relationships I had so far were through apps but through RL (ie the old analog way) I hope the next one too


Well they're not limited to meeting either of us through some iPhone gimmick.

iPhone gimmick?


Yeah, apps are a kind of played out fad in my professional opinion.


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10 Feb 2019, 1:22 am

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cberg wrote:
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ha man I feel you, kinda in the same boat as you are. Haven't been with a girl for a year and a half. A friend asked me "how can I cope" I think he was more refering to the lack of sex aspect of it but honestly right now I care more for just the companionship over casual sex.. like you, to feel loved by a siginificant other and not being partner-less.

My view is that it's right down to luck. Sadly nowdays the the (almost) only way to get to know girls is through apps which is a double edged sword. I would have prefered if this wasn't the case, non of the relationships I had so far were through apps but through RL (ie the old analog way) I hope the next one too


Well they're not limited to meeting either of us through some iPhone gimmick.

iPhone gimmick?


Yeah, apps are a kind of played out fad in my professional opinion.


Android has apps. Apps is just mobile software.
I’m typing this on google chrome app. 0.o
Do you mean dating sites? I don’t think they’re a fad they sadly seem to be the future.



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10 Feb 2019, 1:48 am

I am an outsider to both the culture as well as the counterculture.



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10 Feb 2019, 1:50 am

Not every honestly brutal self-evaluation is “self-fulfilling prophecy” or “insecurity/lack of confidence”.
If your grades at math were always Cs, then it would be a honest conclusion to say “I can never be a mathematician” , that’s not a prophecy, that’s logic based on a long historical input.

I find sly being realistic in evaluating his chances, the only thing I disagree with him is him not trying to improve his situation.
But his self-evaluation of his current situation? It is very realistic.