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27 Jun 2019, 12:02 pm

Every time I express emotion or anything personal, it's questioned.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:04 pm

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Every time I express emotion or anything personal, it's questioned.

You mean the comment above or the real life?


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27 Jun 2019, 12:05 pm

cberg wrote:
Not really what the thread's about, but here you go. I've lost enough friends to see the pattern.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190313-why-more-men-kill-themselves-than-women


It’s not feminism’s fault that men commit suicide.

Historically, men have been more likely to commit suicide (I think this has more to do with unhealthy gender norms including, but not limited to, being less likely to reach out for help).


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27 Jun 2019, 12:06 pm

cberg wrote:
Every time I express emotion or anything personal, it's questioned.


The above comment made it seem as though you were blaming women for men’s suicides.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:07 pm

cberg wrote:
Every time I express emotion or anything personal, it's questioned.


So you admit that the comment is personal and emotionally based, and not factual.



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27 Jun 2019, 12:10 pm

Well this sucks. I should really leave WP. You're reading too far into it, I was invited to share what I feel here by OP but I'm clearly unwelcome.

Unhealthy gender norms kill all kinds of people.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:12 pm

As someone outside those gender norms who gets called male for lack of a more accurate term, I'm bummed out.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:13 pm

cberg wrote:
Well this sucks. I should really leave WP. You're reading too far into it, I was invited to share what I feel here by OP but I'm clearly unwelcome.

Unhealthy gender norms kill all kinds of people.

Sharing what you feel should look like
"I feel <emotion>"
Then we would know you were sharing an emotion.

"Sexist attitudes all over the place are seeing guys dropping like flies from suicides. Feminism totally overlooked humanism." looks like opinion, not emotion, and it is evaluated as such.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:13 pm

If you think I as a guy believe in blame in the slightest, you don't know me.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:14 pm

cberg wrote:
Well this sucks. I should really leave WP. You're reading too far into it, I was invited to share what I feel here by OP but I'm clearly unwelcome.

Unhealthy gender norms kill all kinds of people.



It's blatant enough that no one has to read into it. You essentially just assigned the responsibility of many male suicides to the female gender.



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27 Jun 2019, 12:17 pm

No, I mentioned the shortcomings of feminism & I'm leaving women out of it. If you don't want to acknowledge what guys feel, so be it.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:20 pm

"Sexist attitudes all over the place are seeing guys dropping like flies from suicides."

This is not citing a shortcoming, this is blaming. And you can't honestly tell me this isn't in reference to women.
I think my part in this conversation is done.



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27 Jun 2019, 12:21 pm

You're saying my opinion as a weird dude is not valid. I knew that already & I wish you knew we can all change that, for everyone.

I wish you knew that female sexism is the exact same problem as male sexism.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:22 pm

red_doghubb wrote:
"Sexist attitudes all over the place are seeing guys dropping like flies from suicides."

This is not citing a shortcoming, this is blaming.
I think my part in this conversation is done.


Your part in the conversation was done when you ignored the first post in the thread. I'm not here to attack you, you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't explicitly say female sexist attitudes, but yeah, that's a big problem.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:22 pm

Guys:

If you want your feelings aknowledged, learn to say "I'm feeling <emotion>".

Despite statistically more talent in reading people, women can't read your emotions from random opinions on random topics.


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27 Jun 2019, 12:25 pm

I agree with Magz, but we all need to stop & take stock of the sum total emotions everyone is ignoring. We can all feel within the same range, with limited exceptions.


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