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04 Jun 2020, 4:47 pm

It’s because people tend to like coffee, and because women sort of want to “take it slow.”

You must realize that women don’t like men who ask a lot of questions, and men who like to debate all the time. They would be fascinated if you, say, talked about what it was like in Russia when you were younger.

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04 Jun 2020, 4:52 pm

Coffee is a common first date because it's quick, safe, public, and inexpensive. The idea is that if coffee goes well, the next date will be something different (a restaurant, or something else completely like a walk in the park).

It's not my favourite idea to have coffee because of coffee breath ... but that's OK
I'd likely have tea or a Frappuccino.

If the women were thinking either of those options QFT, I'd assume it's reason a).

If they're inviting you and hoping that you'll pay, they can't very well ask for anything more expensive than coffee.

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04 Jun 2020, 4:53 pm

“Listen youngsters, before the pandemic in my days people were used to do dates in restaurants.”

“What’s a restaurant?”

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04 Jun 2020, 5:15 pm

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It’s because people tend to like coffee, and because women sort of want to “take it slow.”

Which leads me right back to the OP: why would the map show the price of a date to be so high if women like to take things slow?

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You must realize that women don’t like men who ask a lot of questions, and men who like to debate all the time.

But if they were turned off by my debating, why would they even go for a coffee, instead of cancelling the whole thing altogether?

Or are you saying that it was a pity date of sorts?

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They would be fascinated if you, say, talked about what it was like in Russia when you were younger.

Incidentally, I remember *two* examples when I did that and it worked. In one of these examples I mentioned how I got lost in a forest in Russia when I was 14. In the other example I mentioned how I was on a few day trip by myself right at the time when I talked to her. In both of these cases they were impressed and their intereste level went up -- and then, later on, I turned them off by turning some "other" topics into the debates.

So maybe my problem is that these types of topics don't come up that often (I mean these two times they just came up on their own, I wasn't "trying" to impress the girls or anything -- in fact I was surprised that they were impressed). So do you think that next time I should actually make an effort into turning conversation in that direction?

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04 Jun 2020, 5:33 pm

I don’t think they mind debating...but not over every little thing.

The “dating costs” presented in the link provided are bogus when it comes to predicting what one might spend on a date.

Very few people go out on a date with someone over “pity.”

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04 Jun 2020, 6:00 pm

Karamazov wrote:

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Try saltanas or raisens. They are cheaper.

Nice one MG.
How you doing?

I am a little emotionally numb at the moment.

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04 Jun 2020, 6:09 pm

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You did ask. A lot of men impress women to get sex.
It’s biological. I want to have sex too though it makes me very anxious.
I need a relationship though if I’ll ever feel comfortable to do sex.
Someone who always be there, nor push me to have sex or judge me about it.

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04 Jun 2020, 7:11 pm

I never liked to be pushed into sex, either.

When I was a virgin, I felt like I could wait for marriage before I made love with my lady.

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04 Jun 2020, 8:02 pm

My PA comes in much worse at $190?

No wonder modern dating is so messed up.

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04 Jun 2020, 8:42 pm

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I never liked to be pushed into sex, either.

When I was a virgin, I felt like I could wait for marriage before I made love with my lady.

Yeah i dont know if I wait to wait that long.
But i dont know and I’ve been used sexually so that complicates it on top of being sexual abused as a kid.

Fantasy seems one thing but actually doing it is another thing.

But from what the other thread said if I don’t have sex in first week or so no woman would date me.

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04 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm

sly279 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I never liked to be pushed into sex, either.

When I was a virgin, I felt like I could wait for marriage before I made love with my lady.

For what it's worth I wouldn't insist that literally no one would, only that it will greatly reduce the field. Someone in a similar boat as yourself might consider the fact that you've been through similar a positive and view your hesitancy as a positive or at least not as a negative. Further, that person might be really uncomfortable with people who have faster timelines like they'd be more likely to encounter.

You'll likely need to cast a broader net but I don't believe it is impossible for you to find someone who is suitable even if I will concede it might be hard.

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05 Jun 2020, 5:18 am

Mountain Goat wrote:

Karamazov wrote:

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Try saltanas or raisens. They are cheaper.

Nice one MG.
How you doing?

I am a little emotionally numb at the moment.

Oh dear. Had anything in particular set that off?
Hope you feel more yourself soon.

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05 Jun 2020, 5:28 am

sly279 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I never liked to be pushed into sex, either.

When I was a virgin, I felt like I could wait for marriage before I made love with my lady.

I think that’s highly dependent on the person in question.
My only successful relationship (Mrs K) it was three months before I was invited into her bedroom, and two years before we started living together: she had decided those timings as rules for herself to guard against the risk of repeating bad relationships in her past.

I have very limited experience but I think that if you ever do meet a woman with experience of relationships, with whom you have a mutual attraction, you may find that they share your need to take it slow and build trust in each other first.

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05 Jun 2020, 5:41 am

Karamazov wrote:

Mountain Goat wrote:

Karamazov wrote:

Mountain Goat wrote:

Try saltanas or raisens. They are cheaper.

Nice one MG.
How you doing?

I am a little emotionally numb at the moment.

Oh dear. Had anything in particular set that off?
Hope you feel more yourself soon.

This talk about raisins and sultana makes me crave for english cake.

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05 Jun 2020, 6:08 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Karamazov wrote:

Mountain Goat wrote:

Karamazov wrote:

Mountain Goat wrote:

Try saltanas or raisens. They are cheaper.

Nice one MG.
How you doing?

I am a little emotionally numb at the moment.

Oh dear. Had anything in particular set that off?
Hope you feel more yourself soon.

This talk about raisins and sultana makes me crave for english cake.

A month or two ago I posted my fruit-cake recipe in the “UK or England?” thread: it shouldn’t be too many pages back to hunt it down if you want to try it out.

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05 Jun 2020, 6:13 am

Karamazov wrote:

sly279 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I never liked to be pushed into sex, either.

When I was a virgin, I felt like I could wait for marriage before I made love with my lady.

No the others are probably right,
And mY lack of relationships and sexual experience also doom me.
Last woman told me she doesn’t want to be some guys first gf or have to tech him how to do sex.

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