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16 Feb 2021, 5:53 pm
Certainly with this kind of person arguments can't be won..
They don't care about science neither logic
Because
'. I asked her what's wrong with black people and she said they're closer to apes. '
'people evolved from pigs'
So, Karen, which one is it?
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16 Feb 2021, 11:51 pm
https://www.science.org.au/curious/people-medicine/similarities-between-humans-and-pigs
Let her know she's a rat's daughter
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17 Feb 2021, 10:56 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yes, developing children need exposure to microbes all around us in order to develop complete and robust immune systems. Jane should know this as a biologist.
While Jane is a biologist she has some strange ideas about biology. Recently she told me that human beings are not descended from apes. She says the human race evolved from pigs, not from apes. She said this was supported by genetic research. I asked to see this research but she didn't have it. I said basing a claim on "evidence exists but it can't be found" is not a very scientific argument.
In some ways she's not completely full of crap on this. I've heard before that the reason some medical studies are done on pigs is because their internal organs most closely mimic those of humans. It's enough of a topic in biology for there to be a LOT of google results for "pig anatomy close to human" - I clicked and skimmed a couple answers and links on the first page:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAEV ... nt=gws-wiz
Pig and human embryos are similar. Tissues are similar and medical students practice on them. We do share some genes - but more with mice than pigs, apparently. She's not completely out to lunch on this one.
BUT, I don't think we evolved from pigs. We do share genetics with many animals, though, including pigs, as when you keep going back up the line we do have common ancestors:
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How close are pigs to humans genetically?
Comparison of the full DNA sequences of different mammals shows that we are more closely related to mice than we are to pigs. We last shared a common ancestor with pigs about 80 million years ago, compared to about 70 million years ago when we diverged from rodents.
Comparison of the full DNA sequences of different mammals shows that we are more closely related to mice than we are to pigs. We last shared a common ancestor with pigs about 80 million years ago, compared to about 70 million years ago when we diverged from rodents.
..but we also, apparently, share some genes with fungi - which is why some people are allergic to mushrooms.. I've heard that some people's bodies react to mushrooms as if there's some sort of mutated foreign human cell in them and it can cause strong adverse allergic reactions.
Quote:
As it turns out, animals and fungi share a common ancestor and branched away from plants at some point about 1.1 billion years ago. It was only later that animals and fungi separated on the genealogical tree of life, making mushrooms more closely related to humans than plants.Jan. 18, 2021
So, just because she can't fully explain to you what she means, doesn't mean she's necessarily wrong.. maybe not completely correct, but not totally out to lunch crazy town wrong on this pig-human connection stuff. (Other things, yes.)
More importantly:
Have you had any discussions with her about what she truly wants/needs out of your relationship? (ie you guys all stay together because that's what she wants And what her family expects.) And then further discussion about how that may be achievable in a win-win-win scenario by working on your relationship and agreeing to Both follow through on couples/marriage counselling? Any forward progress on the big picture stuff that matters?
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18 Feb 2021, 5:32 am
goldfish21 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yes, developing children need exposure to microbes all around us in order to develop complete and robust immune systems. Jane should know this as a biologist.
While Jane is a biologist she has some strange ideas about biology. Recently she told me that human beings are not descended from apes. She says the human race evolved from pigs, not from apes. She said this was supported by genetic research. I asked to see this research but she didn't have it. I said basing a claim on "evidence exists but it can't be found" is not a very scientific argument.
In some ways she's not completely full of crap on this. I've heard before that the reason some medical studies are done on pigs is because their internal organs most closely mimic those of humans. It's enough of a topic in biology for there to be a LOT of google results for "pig anatomy close to human" - I clicked and skimmed a couple answers and links on the first page:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAEV ... nt=gws-wiz
Pig and human embryos are similar. Tissues are similar and medical students practice on them. We do share some genes - but more with mice than pigs, apparently. She's not completely out to lunch on this one.
BUT, I don't think we evolved from pigs. We do share genetics with many animals, though, including pigs, as when you keep going back up the line we do have common ancestors:
Quote:
How close are pigs to humans genetically?
Comparison of the full DNA sequences of different mammals shows that we are more closely related to mice than we are to pigs. We last shared a common ancestor with pigs about 80 million years ago, compared to about 70 million years ago when we diverged from rodents.
Comparison of the full DNA sequences of different mammals shows that we are more closely related to mice than we are to pigs. We last shared a common ancestor with pigs about 80 million years ago, compared to about 70 million years ago when we diverged from rodents.
..but we also, apparently, share some genes with fungi - which is why some people are allergic to mushrooms.. I've heard that some people's bodies react to mushrooms as if there's some sort of mutated foreign human cell in them and it can cause strong adverse allergic reactions.
Quote:
As it turns out, animals and fungi share a common ancestor and branched away from plants at some point about 1.1 billion years ago. It was only later that animals and fungi separated on the genealogical tree of life, making mushrooms more closely related to humans than plants.Jan. 18, 2021
So, just because she can't fully explain to you what she means, doesn't mean she's necessarily wrong.. maybe not completely correct, but not totally out to lunch crazy town wrong on this pig-human connection stuff. (Other things, yes.)
More importantly:
Have you had any discussions with her about what she truly wants/needs out of your relationship? (ie you guys all stay together because that's what she wants And what her family expects.) And then further discussion about how that may be achievable in a win-win-win scenario by working on your relationship and agreeing to Both follow through on couples/marriage counselling? Any forward progress on the big picture stuff that matters?
People share common ancestors with a tree too, forgot which species.
For a slut, you are an exceptional relationship advisor.
To OP: Im going through PMS time, I can be your Jane, I promise to abuse you much better. Dump that Jane wife. You can do better than that. I can brainstorm better ideas for your [cringe and gag reflex] child's crib. That [disgusting] creature deserves life & care, at least.
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18 Feb 2021, 6:05 am
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18 Feb 2021, 7:17 am
Eurythmic wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
It's not just that she plays headgames with me. It's that she's actually good at playing them.
When she doesn't get her way, she'll start several arguments on unrelated topics until I give in on the thing that she really cared about (she provides no clue about which is the real argument and which ones are the fake ones).
She does this as a way of punishing me.
When she doesn't get her way, she'll start several arguments on unrelated topics until I give in on the thing that she really cared about (she provides no clue about which is the real argument and which ones are the fake ones).
She does this as a way of punishing me.
And I though Jane walking you like a dog by the Torrens was as bad as it got!
This one has got you by the short and curlies Retro, and now you've got a baby with her.
Good luck mate.
'Piss off, Jane. Can't you see I'm walking my dog?'
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18 Feb 2021, 8:14 am
goldfish21 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yes, developing children need exposure to microbes all around us in order to develop complete and robust immune systems. Jane should know this as a biologist.
While Jane is a biologist she has some strange ideas about biology. Recently she told me that human beings are not descended from apes. She says the human race evolved from pigs, not from apes. She said this was supported by genetic research. I asked to see this research but she didn't have it. I said basing a claim on "evidence exists but it can't be found" is not a very scientific argument.
In some ways she's not completely full of crap on this. I've heard before that the reason some medical studies are done on pigs is because their internal organs most closely mimic those of humans. It's enough of a topic in biology for there to be a LOT of google results for "pig anatomy close to human" - I clicked and skimmed a couple answers and links on the first page:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAEV ... nt=gws-wiz
Pig and human embryos are similar. Tissues are similar and medical students practice on them. We do share some genes - but more with mice than pigs, apparently. She's not completely out to lunch on this one.
BUT, I don't think we evolved from pigs. We do share genetics with many animals, though, including pigs, as when you keep going back up the line we do have common ancestors:
Quote:
How close are pigs to humans genetically?
Comparison of the full DNA sequences of different mammals shows that we are more closely related to mice than we are to pigs. We last shared a common ancestor with pigs about 80 million years ago, compared to about 70 million years ago when we diverged from rodents.
Comparison of the full DNA sequences of different mammals shows that we are more closely related to mice than we are to pigs. We last shared a common ancestor with pigs about 80 million years ago, compared to about 70 million years ago when we diverged from rodents.
..but we also, apparently, share some genes with fungi - which is why some people are allergic to mushrooms.. I've heard that some people's bodies react to mushrooms as if there's some sort of mutated foreign human cell in them and it can cause strong adverse allergic reactions.
Quote:
As it turns out, animals and fungi share a common ancestor and branched away from plants at some point about 1.1 billion years ago. It was only later that animals and fungi separated on the genealogical tree of life, making mushrooms more closely related to humans than plants.Jan. 18, 2021
So, just because she can't fully explain to you what she means, doesn't mean she's necessarily wrong.. maybe not completely correct, but not totally out to lunch crazy town wrong on this pig-human connection stuff. (Other things, yes.)
More importantly:
Have you had any discussions with her about what she truly wants/needs out of your relationship? (ie you guys all stay together because that's what she wants And what her family expects.) And then further discussion about how that may be achievable in a win-win-win scenario by working on your relationship and agreeing to Both follow through on couples/marriage counselling? Any forward progress on the big picture stuff that matters?
So yeah the human ancestor evolved us after splitting with an Ancestor of pigs. But she incidentally also said it's 'not from apes'. Questionable theory.
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18 Feb 2021, 4:29 pm
Rexi wrote:
For a slut, you are an exceptional relationship advisor.
Believe it or not I've been a relationship advisor to friends over the years & helped keep some meant-to-be couples together.
I guess I chalk it up to the good ol' "Those that can, do, those that can't.. teach." Not that hard to solve other peoples' problems & teach them things.
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19 Feb 2021, 11:21 am
goldfish21 wrote:
Rexi wrote:
For a slut, you are an exceptional relationship advisor.
Believe it or not I've been a relationship advisor to friends over the years & helped keep some meant-to-be couples together.
I guess I chalk it up to the good ol' "Those that can, do, those that can't.. teach." Not that hard to solve other peoples' problems & teach them things.
Cool but I personally would be at war with you if you tried to keep me into a relationship. I'd rather you split me up with the person. Have you ever done that?
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